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  • I think it's too much of a stretch. 

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    • I dont believe it either

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    • Bill the Triangle Guy wrote:
      I think it's too much of a stretch. 

      Not sure what exactly it is. What's the basic gist?

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    • The "basic gist" is that in the episode with Mermando, there was a bottle that Mermando sent to Mabel. Inside the bottle, there was a paper with 'LEBAM' written on it instead of 'MABEL'. So, now some people (including our wiki's users The Sqoou and Vailskibum94) think that Lebam is a clone of Mabel or a Twin of Mabel. Making Dipper, Mabel, and Lebam triplets. 

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    • I think Lebam being an alternate personality would be more believable. 

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    • Diggledog wrote:
      The "basic gist" is that in the episode with Mermando, there was a bottle that Mermando sent to Mabel. Inside the bottle, there was a paper with 'LEBAM' written on it instead of 'MABEL'. So, now some people (including our wiki's users The Sqoou and Vailskibum94) think that Lebam is a clone of Mabel or a Twin of Mabel. Making Dipper, Mabel, and Lebam triplets. 

      I think that sounds extremely stupid. If more info came out, then it could be believable.

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    • I think it's extremely implausible.  ""LEBAM"" only seems possible due to multiple goofs and errors.

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    • Just making sure we are all on the same page and know how idioticly stupid that theory is. 

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    • It's way to forced.

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    • Superluigi6 wrote:

      Diggledog wrote:
      The "basic gist" is that in the episode with Mermando, there was a bottle that Mermando sent to Mabel. Inside the bottle, there was a paper with 'LEBAM' written on it instead of 'MABEL'. So, now some people (including our wiki's users The Sqoou and Vailskibum94) think that Lebam is a clone of Mabel or a Twin of Mabel. Making Dipper, Mabel, and Lebam triplets. 
      I think that sounds extremely stupid. If more info came out, then it could be believable.

      That's only one tinsy small proof you've had there.

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    • Dude he said gist, and said some people as if he/she doesn't believe or support the theory. And also it would be, "That's only a small piece of proof you have there." You totally desecrated that sentence.

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    • I think people were getting so desperate during hiatus (im not saying its not me) that alot of theories were born that, sure, could be true, but were streched farther than a theory should go.

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    • Many say the first TRUE hints of Lebam are in Land of Swine, during Pig Dance Party, but Mabel could've put the camera on a mode where it takes pictures automatically.

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    • In other words, I think the theory is a ton of nonsense.

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    • I think the wait for season 2 was so long that people would jump at any small detail and make it a theory.

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    • I know. It's just errors!

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    • SUPERDUDEDOM wrote: I know. It's just errors!

      I know right! I just didn't know how popular the theory was. Just making sure we all are on the same page.

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    • The page being that she dose not exist.

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    • I don't believe it although it is cool to see the YouTube videos. Also there's one about Robbie being a zombie, but I don't believe that either, Robbie's just a cranky teenager with a rude attitude.

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    • Seriously, if you go onto YouTube there are several videos of theories about the characters of Gravity Falls. The only one I agree with is the one so far where they say that Grunkle Stan belongs to some sort of secret society.

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    • MabelPinesfan wrote: Seriously, if you go onto YouTube there are several videos of theories about the characters of Gravity Falls. The only one I agree with is the one so far where they say that Grunkle Stan belongs to some sort of secret society.

      Yeah, I think just about everyone here has seen the videos.

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    • MabelPinesfan wrote:
      I don't believe it although it is cool to see the YouTube videos. Also there's one about Robbie being a zombie, but I don't believe that either, Robbie's just a cranky teenager with a rude attitude.

      For the zombie theory, what's the evidence behind that?

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    • Well, there's a YouTube video someone posted about a theory they have that Robbie's a zombie.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvTXjYWAEBk. Hopefully clicking this link will take you to the video.

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    • Or a diferrent lighting scheme and the reverse name in the bottle, that was just a joke! Lets not forget the scaryoke incident in which they thought bruised tired and messed up stan was stanley

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    • Honestly, I've seen the episode "The Deep End" plenty of times, and I've never noticed the bottle with "Labem" written on any of the bottles.

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    • Don't be so quick to rule this out. It has already happened, briefly, that Mabel has a doppelganger, and it could easily happen again.

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    • MabelPinesfan wrote:
      Honestly, I've seen the episode "The Deep End" plenty of times, and I've never noticed the bottle with "Labem" written on any of the bottles.

      Same

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    • I love that episode. Mabel and Mermando were adorable. YAY FOR MABEL FOR FINALLY GETTING HER FIRST KISS! I liked this little conversation between them; Memando "The pool, she closes, can I see you again tonight?" Mabel "Sure, where? Wanna go for a walk?" Mermando "Mearman. I am a merman." LOL.

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    • Diggledog wrote:
      The "basic gist" is that in the episode with Mermando, there was a bottle that Mermando sent to Mabel. Inside the bottle, there was a paper with 'LEBAM' written on it instead of 'MABEL'. So, now some people (including our wiki's users The Sqoou and Vailskibum94) think that Lebam is a clone of Mabel or a Twin of Mabel. Making Dipper, Mabel, and Lebam triplets. 


      Why not? In Gravity Falls all is possible.

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    • Yeah but weren't they born in Piedmont, California?

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    • Koldun007 wrote:
      Yeah but weren't they born in Piedmont, California?

      Yes they were.


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    • RockSunner wrote:
      Don't be so quick to rule this out. It has already happened, briefly, that Mabel has a doppelganger, and it could easily happen again.

      Okay, when did that happen? I only remember all the Dipper clones from the episode "Double Dipper". Paper Jam Dipper was my favorite of the clones, he was so cute! <3


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    • I think what would make more sense is if she had a clone from the copying machine. But instead the videos theorize that Dipper and Mabel are triplets.

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    • But dipper and Mabel aren't exact clones and triplets aren't either so Mabel's theoretical doppelgänger would at least look slightly different yet videos suggest they look exactly the same.

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    • Guys, Mabel does not have a clone. I need proof to believe that. -.-

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    • So do I

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    • Koldun007 wrote: But dipper and Mabel aren't exact clones and triplets aren't either so Mabel's theoretical doppelgänger would at least look slightly different yet videos suggest they look exactly the same.

      Exactly!

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    • Let's not forget her doppelgänger is impossible since she never even used the cloning machine! If anything dipper has a doppelgänger, two even.

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    • Have you seen "Into the Bunker"?

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    • I'm pretty sure everybody has seen "Into the Bunker" Right, guys? Besides, that shapeshifter was "shifting" to look like Mabel but that does NOT mean Lebam exists or they are triplets. Excuse the language but most theories on Gravity Falls in the gap between seasons are BULLSHIT!  Who's with me?

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    • Koldun007 wrote: Let's not forget her doppelgänger is impossible since she never even used the cloning machine! If anything dipper has a doppelgänger, two even.

      She COULD have possibly used the cloning machine. I mean in The Deep End she mentioned that she dated a vampire and (although she might've been joking) we had no idea. Anything's possible.

      Although it's highly unlikely.

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    • RockSunner wrote: Have you seen "Into the Bunker"?

      Yes.

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    • Koldun007 said it was impossible for Mabel to have a doppelganger since she never used the cloning machine, but there was one of her for a few seconds in "Into the Bunker." I would "never say never" about Gravity Falls. The Shifter doesn't validate the traditional Lebam theory... I didn't mean that it did.

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    • It's also unlikely because the shifter never saw Mabel before Into the Bunker because he called her a "new one."

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    • MabelPinesfan wrote:

      RockSunner wrote:
      Don't be so quick to rule this out. It has already happened, briefly, that Mabel has a doppelganger, and it could easily happen again.

      Okay, when did that happen? I only remember all the Dipper clones from the episode "Double Dipper". Paper Jam Dipper was my favorite of the clones, he was so cute! <3


      Even if Lebam was a clone from the copy machine she would have dissolved at the pool, so she couldn't have met Mermando, much less received a letter from him.

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    • Afton24 wrote:

      MabelPinesfan wrote:


      RockSunner wrote:
      Don't be so quick to rule this out. It has already happened, briefly, that Mabel has a doppelganger, and it could easily happen again.
      Okay, when did that happen? I only remember all the Dipper clones from the episode "Double Dipper". Paper Jam Dipper was my favorite of the clones, he was so cute! <3


      Even if Lebam was a clone from the copy machine she would have dissolved at the pool, so she couldn't have met Mermando, much less received a letter from him.

      Exactly, but I never even noticed any of the bottles having "Lebam" written on them instead of "Mabel" and I've watched "The Deep End" about 10 times. It's one of my favorite episodes it was so sweet, although Waddles did appear in that episode and I JUST LOVE HIM! HE'S SO CUTE! I love any episode with Waddles in it even if he's not the focus of the episode or if he only appears for a short time.


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    • I hope theres an episode in which waddles can talk and tells them that stan copied the journals

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    • Koldun007 wrote:
      I hope theres an episode in which waddles can talk and tells them that stan copied the journals

      Well, I don't think he would even if he could.


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    • Why not? At least he would tell Mabel. He is her best friend apart from Candy and Grenda.

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    • the theory i saw was that lebam was a doppleganger which in a place like gravity falls i would believe could happen.

      myths surronding them is that other people can notice them, interact with them and see them but you cant, they are usually darker than you and they are in most myths, evil.

      but there are harmless stories of them just following their 'twin' and whatever.

      most extrems are that the doppleganger tries to take over it's twin's life in different ways from killing the person to it's friends or whatever, they are your dark twin after all.


      either way it's an interesting theory and the only explanation to why they would intentinally animate the Lebam bottle.

      the triplets idea is just too farfetched and does sound weak, i think the doppleganger one would be the most interesting out there.

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    • guys it is just Mabel Backwards okay

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    • Nah bra. I always felt like that theory was just grasping at straws. 

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    • I do not beilive it either

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    • if the theory was true then why isnt Lebam symbolized on bills wheel? so its most likely false, so its either a troll from the animators or an animation error

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    • Puppy0cam wrote: if the theory was true then why isnt Lebam symbolized on bills wheel? so its most likely false, so its either a troll from the animators or an animation error

      That's one of the strongest things going for the Lebam theory. If she exists, she would be an excellent candidate for the Llama. She's perfect for it -- associated with a mirror image of Mabel's sweater. Pacifica can be made to fit only with a huge stretch. Gabe doesn't qualify either without a lot of reaching.

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    • what if that was dipper's name before he got his nickname which is dipper?

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    • Under Par wrote: what if that was dipper's name before he got his nickname which is dipper?

      As an explanation for the name on the bottles (and only that) it's barely acceptable. You have to have crazy parents who picked the reverse of their daughter's name for their son. It's not a good boy's name.

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    • RockSunner wrote:

      Under Par wrote: what if that was dipper's name before he got his nickname which is dipper?

      As an explanation for the name on the bottles (and only that) it's barely acceptable. You have to have crazy parents who picked the reverse of their daughter's name for their son. It's not a good boy's name.

      His real name must be pretty bad for him to go by "Dipper".

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    • RockSunner wrote:

      Under Par wrote: what if that was dipper's name before he got his nickname which is dipper?

      As an explanation for the name on the bottles (and only that) it's barely acceptable. You have to have crazy parents who picked the reverse of their daughter's name for their son. It's not a good boy's name.

      yeah ik but thats why he goes by dipper anyway that is what they would have had for the triplet anyway

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    • i don't think so becuase dipper would know about it and really? its a stupid theory.

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    • Some think his name is Stanley because on his license plate Stnlymbl was interpreted into Stanley mobile yet his name is Stanford which suggests the licence plate says Stanley Mabel.

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    • mobile

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    • Stan's car is a 1965 El Diablo Convertible (per Alex Hirsh), and he probably owned it for years before 2000, the birth year of the twins. Why would he buy vanity plates (which cost extra) to honor a grand-niece and grand-nephew from a remote branch of the family that barely knows him (if they knew him better, they wouldn't send their kids to stay with him)?

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    • RockSunner wrote: Stan's car is a 1965 El Diablo Convertible (per Alex Hirsh), and he probably owned it for years before 2000, the birth year of the twins. Why would he buy vanity plates (which cost extra) to honor a grand-niece and grand-nephew from a remote branch of the family that barely knows him (if they knew him better, they wouldn't send their kids to stay with him)?

      I know, right? I'm sick of people saying that the license plate means something. What if he doesn't like "STNFRDMBL"? (That's one more letter, too)

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    • Maby Mermando's kind write backwards.

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    • Paige EM wrote: Maby Mermando's kind write backwards.

      No, there's a zoom-in on one of his letters to Mabel and the writing is normal.

      I would accept that he sometimes calls her Mabel and sometimes Lebam, since that can be a nickname for Mabel; it might be his pet name for her.

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    • Sorry to break it to the people who basically created this theory, but it's just Mabel's name backwards. That's it. Yes, I'm sure it was intentional on the animators' part, but honestly, I think they were just having some fun in the studio and wrote that down just as a little joke.

      Of course, the "super extreme major expert theorists!!11" of Gravity Falls fandom have got to go and belly flop onto this little joke and make a mountain out of a mole hill, or however the saying goes.

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    • Nah... It is like someone is so desperate to create a storyline in which Mabel has a doppelganger that he/she used mini bits of possible animation errors as an excuse for such. 

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    • Eh not really. It just doesn't seem too likely.

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    • Geoandrew wrote:
      Diggledog wrote:
      The "basic gist" is that in the episode with Mermando, there was a bottle that Mermando sent to Mabel. Inside the bottle, there was a paper with 'LEBAM' written on it instead of 'MABEL'. So, now some people (including our wiki's users The Sqoou and Vailskibum94) think that Lebam is a clone of Mabel or a Twin of Mabel. Making Dipper, Mabel, and Lebam triplets. 

      Why not? In Gravity Falls all is possible.

      May be so, but that won't be the excuse for every theory, now would it?

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    • MabelPinesfan wrote:
      RockSunner wrote:
      Don't be so quick to rule this out. It has already happened, briefly, that Mabel has a doppelganger, and it could easily happen again.
      Okay, when did that happen? I only remember all the Dipper clones from the episode "Double Dipper". Paper Jam Dipper was my favorite of the clones, he was so cute! <3



      Ew...


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    • There is other proof if you look at Vailskibum94's video and other theories online to mable having a twin I got thees from Vailskibum94's video but mable was seen in a newspaper with no design on her sweater lokking confused and holding hands with little gideon and while in front of a mirror it shows her with the llama from the character wheel on her sweater symbolising the llama on the character wheel being mable mirror duplicate lebam and she writes with both her left and right hands in different episodes. Ever wonder how  mable ran up the stairs faster than candy and grenda in boy crazy when they were halfway uo the stairs before she even moved and how would she get past candy and grenda assuming form later footage in the episode candy is as storng as mable and grendas probalby stronger.

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    • sorry about the speeling and grammmar errors.

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    • I wouldn't believe in, but the thing with the Lama shirt and the character whell makes me consider about it, it's the last one that is missing...

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    • Bill the Triangle Guy wrote:
      Just making sure we are all on the same page and know how idioticly stupid that theory is. 


      • idiotically #FTFY
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    • Bobbobbobington1234 wrote: There is other proof if you look at Vailskibum94's video and other theories online to mable having a twin I got thees from Vailskibum94's video but mable was seen in a newspaper with no design on her sweater lokking confused and holding hands with little gideon and while in front of a mirror it shows her with the llama from the character wheel on her sweater symbolising the llama on the character wheel being mable mirror duplicate lebam and she writes with both her left and right hands in different episodes. Ever wonder how  mable ran up the stairs faster than candy and grenda in boy crazy when they were halfway uo the stairs before she even moved and how would she get past candy and grenda assuming form later footage in the episode candy is as storng as mable and grendas probalby stronger.

      You're actually well versed in the theory. Nice work kid !!!

      Here. Have a head that's always screaming... http://i.imgur.com/QrDRvvb.gifv

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    • Koldun007 wrote: Or a diferrent lighting scheme and the reverse name in the bottle, that was just a joke! Lets not forget the scaryoke incident in which they thought bruised tired and messed up stan was stanley

      But that was Stanley...

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    • This idea is based on an animation error.

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    • Surprised this thing actually managed to spark numerous discussions...people can easily sit down and type "Hey - anything can happen in Gravity Falls!", but in reality it is ridiculous! 

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    • Reality? In what context?

      You've been buying gold. Right?

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    • To anyone who still believes this: Alex Hirsch himself has debunked this on twitter.

      https://twitter.com/_alexhirsch/status/588541372061224962

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    • AnonymousDuckLover wrote:

      Koldun007 wrote: Or a diferrent lighting scheme and the reverse name in the bottle, that was just a joke! Lets not forget the scaryoke incident in which they thought bruised tired and messed up stan was stanley

      But that was Stanley...

      That reply was posted long before the Stanford reveal

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    • CindyBaker wrote: To anyone who still believes this: Alex Hirsch himself has debunked this on twitter.

      https://twitter.com/_alexhirsch/status/588541372061224962

      I look at things like that with suspicion and for other ways to interpret it. Remember when someone asked him what Grunkle Stan's first name was and he said, "Stanford. He's a classy guy."

      That has to be carefully parsed. The "Grunkle Stan" who is "classy" is named Stanford, and the other is named Stanley.

      So there could be a character with a different name that was a Mabel clone, for example.

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    • No!!! It's a big stretch and we would of probably met her by now

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    • So there could be a character with a different name that was a Mabel clone, for example.

      This has caused some confusion. The theory is that Lebam is just the clue to the backwards nature. I think there's a second version of Gravity Falls happening on screen and they're near identical.

      It's often assumed that I'm saying the girl's name is Lebam. Her name would be Mabel just the same as her doppelganger except she'd be backwards. (Much like what would happen in our reality if one were to traverse a Mobius strip.)

      Let's also consider Hirsch's statement "Mabel's a ham" is likely related to this theory.

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    • I'm pretty sure Lebam isn't an actual thing. There is very little evidence to support this theory, and some of it (the bottle form "The Deep End" was probably just Alex Hirsch trying to stir up the fans in to creating all sorts of far-out conspiracies from a single scene. And look at that. It worked.

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    • Captainkirk wrote:
      I think it's extremely implausible.  ""LEBAM"" only seems possible due to multiple goofs and errors.

      Was thinking that too. The whole thing sounds like a real stretch.

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    • Where did Mabel get her suit coat in Boss Mabel?

      Why does it look like one of Gideon's blue suit coats?


      What "arrangement with Mabel" was Bud Gleeful referring to in Hand That Rocks the Mabel?

      In a show riddled with pop culture references, many of which specifically alluding to time travel / doppelganger narritaves, it's a wonder more people don't come to these specific conclusions before the fact.

      We're so often surprised by the same storys again and again.

      Benjamin Button and Forest Gump are literally scripts written around the same story line.

      There are often times two bull symbolic characters. (it seems they're substituting buffalo in this one) Maybe Pacifica is the second bull, but it seems she's a thing in herself, the Pacific Northwest direction. laeving a spot open for the second half of the May Bull aspect.

      Mable calling herself Serious in Irrational Treasure alludes to Sirius the Planet which is "opposite" the Pacific Northwest in the sky. This lends to the theory that Pacifica is the llama and the opposite of Mabel. She's cold like ice like winter and Mabel is red like fire like summer.

      That is the known well stuff and easy to decode. What made me shift toward a doppelganger theory in this instance is the myriad of backwards message, multiverse, copies, mirrors, reflections, clones, doppelganger, etc clues they put in every episode.

      There are backwards messages of every kind, from spoken to written to animation error.

      The likelihood of there being backwards people as part of the big plot twist they're inevitably leading up to is higher than just one clue.

      I fully expect to see flashbacks of Ford cloning Shmebulock and sawing off Gomper's horn with the saw hanging in his kitchen. 11/13/15 The Sqoou (talk) 10:20, November 13, 2015 (UTC)

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    • I can see how people would believe this theory some of the evidence is pretty convincing. However, we know that twins skip a generation. Stan and Ford are twins than Mabel and dippers mom or dad weren't twins. Mabel and dipper are twins after their grunkles. How could there be triplets? I know, I know in "The Hand That Rocks The Mabel" in the newspaper Mabel is holding hands with Gideon and her sweater has nothing on it. People think it's lebam but it's probably just an animation fluke. They have those all the time, it's not perfect. Also yeah yeah I know sometimes Mabel is up the stairs even if she was last on the stairs first, but it's a cartoon may I remind you. This theory is supported by lots of great sources (clap for you) but it just doesn't seem like Hirsch would do this. I mean it's season 2 episode 19 already, they would have pointed this out because supposedly this is the last season. There also is not a whole bunch of proof just some that get you thinking. Do I believe it? No. Can you? Sure why not, no harm. Remember we are all fans of gravity falls and love to speculate. Nothing wrong with that. Just be nice to each other about it please.

      ~MabelionLuver out~

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    • i dont belive it.

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    • Well it's the end almost, it's obviously not a thing anymore. Lol

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    • I think the Lebam thing with the water bottles was nothing more than an animation error.

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    • ThatGuy30722 wrote:
      I think the Lebam thing with the water bottles was nothing more than an animation error.


      Pretty much yep.

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