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  • in Time Traveller's Pig- when the twins fall through the covered wagon, the mom in the wagon is holding a baby- look at the baby's chin. He has a band-aid on his chin in the exact same place that Old Man McGuket's band-aid!

    This was in 1863, or before wasn't it?! So Old Man McGuket is around 150 years old!

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    • or they both got a cut in the same place :P

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      In the present day, he has a bandage around the same hand!

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    • Old man mcgucket cut his own finger so he can be a normal man Like trust no one has 5 fingers in each hands

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    • Having five fingers doesn't mean anything since it was a character design choice. Michael Rianda said pretend as if all the characters have 5 fingers.

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    • i seen the episode again but the baby aka old man mcgucket he has like 5 finger

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    • I have a theory that might just be as crazy as the old man but hear me out:

      I think that Old Man McGuket is the author of 1, 2 and 3. As the author he may believe that someone was watching him and in order to hide pretended to be crazy, or was driven mad by Gravity falls.

      Further more, little out there theory, I believe he was born with a deformity that caused him to be born with six fingers on his right hand and used that as his symbol of authorship of the books. When he went into hiding I believe he cut two of his fingers off to hide his authorship.

      Finally there is the Bandage theory that started all of this and I agree with it, I suspect that Quentin Trembley will return and confirm this. Finally there was the mention of his death in season 2, and given his age and the fact that he already survived being eaten by a dinosaur nothing short of old age will do.

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    • I further theorize that he has been running some sort of scheme in all of his appearances. For example he may have been aware of 2 being in Lil Gideon's possession and chose to work for him to get close enough to get it back. Further more the fact that there's a legitimate Gobblewonker tells me that he was using his mechanical Gobblewonker to find it.

      Finally he may have been after the Dinosaurs in land before time.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote: I further theorize that he has been running some sort of scheme in all of his appearances. For example he may have been aware of 2 being in Lil Gideon's possession and chose to work for him to get close enough to get it back. Further more the fact that there's a legitimate Gobblewonker tells me that he was using his mechanical Gobblewonker to find it.

      Finally he may have been after the Dinosaurs in land before time.

      Brandon Storm9 wrote:
      I have a theory that might just be as crazy as the old man but hear me out:

      I think that Old Man McGuket is the author of 1, 2 and 3. As the author he may believe that someone was watching him and in order to hide pretended to be crazy, or was driven mad by Gravity falls.

      Further more, little out there theory, I believe he was born with a deformity that caused him to be born with six fingers on his right hand and used that as his symbol of authorship of the books. When he went into hiding I believe he cut two of his fingers off to hide his authorship.

      Finally there is the Bandage theory that started all of this and I agree with it, I suspect that Quentin Trembley will return and confirm this. Finally there was the mention of his death in season 2, and given his age and the fact that he already survived being eaten by a dinosaur nothing short of old age will do.

      You, my friend, are brilliant.

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    • Hi buddy! I didn't know you come here.

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    • Me neither... :P

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    • Update: In the end of Pines Quest a cryptogram decodes to read "OLD MAN MCG KNOWS." This supports my theories about McGucket being the author of the books.

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    • It could all just be a theory. You don know what twist the people are gonna throw at you.

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    • Maybe it's multiple people.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote:
      Update: In the end of Pines Quest a cryptogram decodes to read "OLD MAN MCG KNOWS." This supports my theories about McGucket being the author of the books.


      Technically, you weren't supposed to say that theory on this wiki.

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    • Sorry, but its posted elsewhere on the wiki such as in the PinesQuest page, the cryptograms, and even OMG's page.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote:
      I have a theory that might just be as crazy as the old man but hear me out:

      I think that Old Man McGuket is the author of 1, 2 and 3. As the author he may believe that someone was watching him and in order to hide pretended to be crazy, or was driven mad by Gravity falls.

      Further more, little out there theory, I believe he was born with a deformity that caused him to be born with six fingers on his right hand and used that as his symbol of authorship of the books. When he went into hiding I believe he cut two of his fingers off to hide his authorship.

      Finally there is the Bandage theory that started all of this and I agree with it, I suspect that Quentin Trembley will return and confirm this. Finally there was the mention of his death in season 2, and given his age and the fact that he already survived being eaten by a dinosaur nothing short of old age will do.


      Yeah,I think a monster made him go mentally insane or something.

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    • Rekanochi wrote:

      Brandon Storm9 wrote: I further theorize that he has been running some sort of scheme in all of his appearances. For example he may have been aware of 2 being in Lil Gideon's possession and chose to work for him to get close enough to get it back. Further more the fact that there's a legitimate Gobblewonker tells me that he was using his mechanical Gobblewonker to find it.

      Finally he may have been after the Dinosaurs in land before time.

      Brandon Storm9 wrote:
      I have a theory that might just be as crazy as the old man but hear me out:

      I think that Old Man McGuket is the author of 1, 2 and 3. As the author he may believe that someone was watching him and in order to hide pretended to be crazy, or was driven mad by Gravity falls.

      Further more, little out there theory, I believe he was born with a deformity that caused him to be born with six fingers on his right hand and used that as his symbol of authorship of the books. When he went into hiding I believe he cut two of his fingers off to hide his authorship.

      Finally there is the Bandage theory that started all of this and I agree with it, I suspect that Quentin Trembley will return and confirm this. Finally there was the mention of his death in season 2, and given his age and the fact that he already survived being eaten by a dinosaur nothing short of old age will do.

      You, my friend, are brilliant.



      Ikr how is he so smart?!

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    • I have something called Autistic Asperger's syndrome, as a result I tend to think different then most people, I see connections where others don't.

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    • Wow cool

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    • Agreed.

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    • (:

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    • Good to know.

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    • Sooooooo

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    • Yah, that's all I got for now.

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    • YazzyDream wrote:
      Having five fingers doesn't mean anything since it was a character design choice. Michael Rianda said pretend as if all the characters have 5 fingers.


      Yeah, I never even notice that they have different numbered fingers.

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    • Neither did I truth be told.

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    • i knew they had a different amount of fingers. i just didn't care.

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    • I agree  with that. There is blood on Bill Cipher's page in 3. One of his fingers was removed from him by Bill.

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    • Disney isn't known for going that far.... however, that is a legit theory.

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    • Agreed, I didn't think of the bloodied page when I post my original theory.

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    • Well Dipper & Gideon were punching the daylights of each other. And when the Gideon bot thing threw Dipper,Dipper got a nosebleed so u never know.....

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    • ....lolwut? That was AFTER when they showed the page with the blood :T

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    • im lost

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    • Clearly.

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    • XD

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    • wanna know the secret of gf well say i do and it's outta the box

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    • Care to share?

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    • I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • My Gosh its just a BANDAID PEOPLE

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    • A bandaid that could lead to many conspiriacies about the truths of GF :T

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    • I too find McGuket suspicious; just not his bandaid.

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    • Being a crazy old man *emphasis on OLD*, I can see your point.

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    • A few more ideas:

      1) The adhesive bandage is an anachronism. It had to be given to the baby by a time-traveler (possibly Blendin Blandin). 2) If it's from the future, it may be a super-band-aid that conveys extra resistance to disease and even aging. 3) Old Man McGucket doesn't require bandages on his right arm. He sometimes leaves them off. But he always conceals his right hand with something (work gloves or an alligator). So perhaps he is hiding the scar where he lost the sixth finger on his right hand.

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    • 1. The likelihood that it's same bandage is very low, it was more likely put there by the writers as a way of showing that it was the same person.

      2. Seriously? I can see where you're coming from with the time traveling thing seeing as how Blendin had to go there and clean up the twins mess but the band-aid was there before they got there and Blendin would have only been there after that.

      3. I agree that the bandages seem to be for concealing something rather than the practical application of bandages.

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    • I'm not that serious about the band-aid longevity deal, but it would help explain how someone from the Oregon Trail days could still be alive. (A more plausible but less funny idea would be if the meme of wearing a band-aid on the face was passed down to McGucket from his ancestors, just as they passed on high-fives).

      Blendin could arrive before or after the twins did, since it's time-travel and he could undershoot their arrival just as well as overshoot it.

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    • Fair enough, but there's still no point in getting there before the twins.

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    • I picture him popping in too early by mistake, perhaps startling Mrs. Mecc into dropping the baby, giving her a band-aid for the injury, popping out again to skip forward, and finally coming back in after the Pine twins are gone to get the calculator.

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    • I still don't see the practical application in a super band-aid that stays on for 150 years after the injury occurred.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote: I still don't see the practical application in a super band-aid that stays on for 150 years after the injury occurred.

      If it started on his chin, and his beard grew out under it, then it would be on the end of his beard. So he must have taken it off and replaced it as his beard grew. Why would he do this? General kookiness, or a habit learned from babyhood? The persistent stickiness of such an old strip is problematic, but not if we assume a futuristic glue.

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    • Also what makes you think they even have need for band-aids in 2070-whatever, for all we know they have a laser beam thingimabob that heals people in like .000004 seconds or something or something even more advance, so why in the name of sanity would Blendin even carry around band-aids?

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    • ...This is a freaking Disney cartoon, and you people are theorizing about a century in the future.

      ...

      ...

      LOGIC.

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    • It's a mystery show we are suppose to SPECULATE!!!

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    • true

      but

      still

      the second season isn't even out yet

      and people are treating it like the next DOKTAH HOO

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    • First I don't even know what DOKTAH HOO is second it's a topic worth discussing, If you don't believe so then stop adding to the conversation.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote: Also what makes you think they even have need for band-aids in 2070-whatever, for all we know they have a laser beam thingimabob that heals people in like .000004 seconds or something or something even more advance, so why in the name of sanity would Blendin even carry around band-aids?

      I can see a time agent carrying portable first-aid supplies. He's got to travel in dangerous times, possibly getting himself injured and exposed to germs that have been eradicated in his time. The laser thingimabob might be too much to lug around.

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    • I could see the practicality in using band-aids in a time period that he was sent that has band-aids instead of a laser-thing, that said band-aids weren't exactly common place 150 years ago.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote:
      First I don't even know what DOKTAH HOO is second it's a topic worth discussing, If you don't believe so then stop adding to the conversation.

      It's doctor who . 

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    • Thankyou, it would be nice if people just talk like normal.

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    • your welcome . It's my duty . Captain Normal-spoken , away ! 

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    • LOL

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    • RockSunner wrote:

      Brandon Storm9 wrote: Also what makes you think they even have need for band-aids in 2070-whatever, for all we know they have a laser beam thingimabob that heals people in like .000004 seconds or something or something even more advance, so why in the name of sanity would Blendin even carry around band-aids?

      I can see a time agent carrying portable first-aid supplies. He's got to travel in dangerous times, possibly getting himself injured and exposed to germs that have been eradicated in his time. The laser thingimabob might be too much to lug around.

      my point exactly

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    • TheSqoou on YouTube has a new possible explanation for the band-aid: McGucket has been cloning himself from his beard. See "Why McGucket's Beard Wears a Bandage" on the first episode of "Gravity Falls Full Disclosure".

      http://youtu.be/DlbW4uqZFjY

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    • Stranger things have happened in this crazy town.

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    • RockSunner wrote:
      TheSqoou on YouTube has a new possible explanation for the band-aid: McGucket has been cloning himself from his beard. See "Why McGucket's Beard Wears a Bandage" on the first episode of "Gravity Falls Full Disclosure".

      http://youtu.be/DlbW4uqZFjY

      O.O

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    • RockSunner wrote: I picture him popping in too early by mistake, perhaps startling Mrs. Mecc into dropping the baby, giving her a band-aid for the injury, popping out again to skip forward, and finally coming back in after the Pine twins are gone to get the calculator.

      But the he would be leaving an anomaly, the exact sort of thing he's trying to remove. Then again, he is really bad at his job...

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    • Agreed.

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    • Mr B Natural wrote: But the he would be leaving an anomaly, the exact sort of thing he's trying to remove. Then again, he is really bad at his job...

      There are possibly two versions of the Time Corp working against each other. One may create anomalies (like band-aids) in an attempt to alter history in their favor, the other may seek to preserve the status quo. The preserving side seems to work for the Time Baby, the winner of the conflict in its timeline.

      The time machine of the Blandin Blendin in "Gideon Rises" is marked with a red symbol on the side. All other versions are marked with a black symbol. One Blendin in "The Time Traveler's Pig" is confident and says all is going according to plan. His suit camouflage adjusts nicely. The other is sweaty, nervous, and has a malfunctioning suit.

      Could the red symbol simply be the opposite side of the same time-travel device? No, the other side is just the clip side: File:Other side of time machine.png

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    • Two alternate versions of Blendin? Now that is messed up!

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    • RockSunner wrote:

      Mr B Natural wrote: But the he would be leaving an anomaly, the exact sort of thing he's trying to remove. Then again, he is really bad at his job...

      There are possibly two versions of the Time Corp working against each other. One may create anomalies (like band-aids) in an attempt to alter history in their favor, the other may seek to preserve the status quo. The preserving side seems to work for the Time Baby, the winner of the conflict in its timeline.

      The time machine of the Blandin Blendin in "Gideon Rises" is marked with a red symbol on the side. All other versions are marked with a black symbol. One Blendin in "The Time Traveler's Pig" is confident and says all is going according to plan. His suit camouflage adjusts nicely. The other is sweaty, nervous, and has a malfunctioning suit.

      Could the red symbol simply be the opposite side of the same time-travel device? No, the other side is just the clip side: File:Other side of time machine.png

      You really like alternate universe twins, don't you?

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    • First time I heard the theory, though it's a little out there even for this show.

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    • What theory?

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    • Rock sunner's theory about alternate versions of Blendin.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote: Rock sunner's theory about alternate versions of Blendin.

      This isn't just my theory. TheSqoou from YouTube pointed out the color discrepancy and suggested it might mean more than one Time Corp. Others have noticed the appearance of Blandin in the final episode of Season One without noticing the color change.

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    • A shade lighter, it might just be the lighting.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote: A shade lighter, it might just be the lighting.

      It's not just a shade lighter, it has a red symbol on the side instead of a black (or dark blue) one.

      I think it may be time to try to connect the main interfering entities in Gravity Falls. Bill and his wheel (and associated drawings of it) demonstrate an imperfect knowledge of the future. Time travelers like the organization(s) of the Time Baby (Babies) have imperfect knowledge of the future. Bill can be tricked and surprised (like with the dart gun). The symbols on his ring can be modified, like the two different fez symbols.

      So, perhaps BIll is a construct of one of the Time Corp groups, only posing as an all-knowing demon. He may work for the Time Baby. His bow-tie is his equipment logo, the triangular infinity symbol of the Baby. The time slow-downs and reversals around his summoning in "Dreamscaperers" look a lot like the first operation of the tape-measure time machine in "The Time Traveler's Pig."

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    • I can't a picture of what you're talking about can you upload one to the wiki?

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote: I can't a picture of what you're talking about can you upload one to the wiki?

      Sure:

      Red time machine symbol

      Red time machine symbol

      I'd like to point out that one of the things Bill revealed in "Dreamscaperers" as one of the "lots of things" that he knew about was the crashed Gideon-bot. Blendin was there and could have taken the picture that Bill displayed.

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    • We still need a photo of the original tape measure to compare.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote: We still need a photo of the original tape measure to compare.

      I didn't think you needed that because there's already an image on-site, but here you go:

      S1e9 closeup1

      Closeup of time machine

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    • No denying it at this point, two different tape measures at the very least, perhaps modified to ensure another incident, or incidents, like in time traveler's pig doesn't happen.

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    • IMO, its just an error.

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    • That is also possible.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote:
      That is also possible.

      Or maybe Darth Vader did something to it XD

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    • Okay now you're just mocking us.

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    • HobbitsLover wrote: IMO, its just an error.

      Cartoon characters have color model sheets. IMHO, color errors in their basic clothing and equipment are less likely than other errors. But you could be right. (But not about Darth Vader).

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    • man alternate universes. billions of them. let's make theories for each of them! :3

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    • Mf99k wrote:
      man alternate universes. billions of them. let's make theories for each of them! :3

      Yay fun!

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    • Lets not and say we did: New topic, which is to say the old topic, OMG's Bandaid any theories anyone? Anyone?

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    • RockSunner wrote:

      Brandon Storm9 wrote: Lets not and say we did: New topic, which is to say the old topic, OMG's Bandaid any theories anyone? Anyone?

      Here's one I haven't seen in this forum. Fertilia Mecc seems inclined to accept outside children as her own. Could the baby in her arms have been dropped off from the future, band-aid and all? (Such a baby might have built-in longevity genes, and grow up to be Old Man McGucket. He would have to change his last name, but there could be plenty of reasons for that.)

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    • Didn't think of that, would certainly explain OMG's inventive genius.

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    • lol the initials

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    • I thought so yes.

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    • That's what I said, if you'd go back up and read my earlier posts you'd see that.

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    • People Gravity falls is back! And while we don't have any new information pertaining to OMG per-say we do have plenty of new information on the author of the Journals, which if my theories are correct were written by OMG.

      1. In Scary-o-ke we know someone with six fingers use to live in or under the Mystery Shack (cause of the six fingered glove in the lab) and that he was performing experiments there most prominently the "Universe portal" and the "Electron Carpet" from Carpet Diem.

      2. In Into The Bunker we know that he experimented on several of the creatures that he found and studied most prominently the shape shifter but the number of busted up cages indicate that other experiments may have broken free as well.

      3. As I already said the author does indeed have six fingers on at least one hand (and apparently really likes canned beans).

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote:
      People Gravity falls is back! And while we don't have any new information pertaining to OMG per-say we do have plenty of new information on the author of the Journals, which if my theories are correct were written by OMG.

      1. In Scary-o-ke we know someone with six fingers use to live in or under the Mystery Shack (cause of the six fingered glove in the lab) and that he was performing experiments there most prominently the "Universe portal" and the "Electron Carpet" from Carpet Diem.

      2. In Into The Bunker we know that he experimented on several of the creatures that he found and studied most prominently the shape shifter but the number of busted up cages indicate that other experiments may have broken free as well.

      3. As I already said the author does indeed have six fingers on at least one hand (and apparently really likes canned beans).

      Also, the shapeshifter said that the author "hastn't been the same in 30 years" and the laptop said "property of F," as in Fiddleford.

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    • Good eye, or ear, whichever one I'm complementing you for. Also the Shape-shifters comment about the author implies he's seen him off and on again for thirty years (the bean can in the entrance is proof that someone has at the very least been tapping the bunker's food store.)

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    • The shape shifter also called the author a six-fingered nerd who hasn't been himself in 30 years. I have a theory that OMG probably captured many of the creatures in the journals and studied them for a long time allowing him to create life like portraits of them and detailed summaries of their abilities and weaknesses but some that were too dangerous had to be cryogenically frozen so they would not escape and wreak havoc on gravity falls, like the shape-shifter for example.

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    • The Real question here is what Fiddleford's computer is gonna say, assuming that is Soos doesn't "awesomeize" it like everything else he touches, and inevitably breaks worst then what it already was.

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    • Well then it was more comedy and soos is actualy serious about finding the author unlike everything else he does, seeing as he was actually dissapointed about not finding the author in into the bunker. I think the laptop will contain info on his location or his name which they will use to find him and he will tell them why he wrote the journals finally revealing one of the secrets of gravity falls.

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    • From what I can tell unlike season 1 season 2 thus far seems to have more episodes with plot significance, in the last two episodes we learned more about the author than in all of season 1 and if the end of into the bunker is any indication more information is on the way.

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    • There will probably be more on the plot after Golf Wars which I think is a refresher to season 1's mini-plot of Pacifica and Mabel's rivalry

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    • Even though they're bringing it back next week, but I can see potential to have season's one's so called fillers connected in more significant ways, for example we could see a return of Blendin and Trembly to explain the significance of Gravity Fall's past.

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    • Maybe they'll discover gravity falls's chief officer from the 1950s who was looking for the mob hiding out in gravity falls seeing as we already know the government was involved with gravity falls before

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    • What mob? We're dealing with a supernatural conspiracy here not a criminal one.

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    • Sorry I mean he was from the 80s and he was investigating the mysteries of gravity falls and he's retired and residing in a home in gravity falls

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    • In any case, we know that the government is at least partially involved in Gravity falls thanks to the whole mess with Quentin Trembly, they probably kept a close eye on it to see if any evidence of him ever showed up and could have stumbled upon one or two supernatural phenomenon.

      That said I don't see any evidence of wide scale government occupation.

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    • Maybe omg faked being crazy so everyone would leave him alone

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    • Another theory I mentioned along with several, I find it hard to believe that some one could be that crazy and no one would make a effort to institutionalize him for his own good, even with the general incompetence of the police force.

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    • Yeah you would think his own son would care enough to cure his own father of his insanity

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    • Which again leads to the conclusion that it is part of an elaborate act.

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    • Or maybe they tried but gave up on him

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    • Also True, OMG is a crafty one, and has no doubt escaped from numerous top tier nursing homes and insane asylums in his long life span. Either way.

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    • He's probably hiding from the one watching him

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    • Correct.

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    • Indeed

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    • New cryptogram at the end of Golf War asks what has the man sleeping on the green, OMG, seen. This one is specifically alluding the OMG and is once again implying towards the fact that he knows something.

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    • Maybe he was checking on the liliputtians because he remembers them from his author experience

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    • Which would mean that he wrote about them in the journal which means that Dipper would already know about them or at least would find them familiar and consult the journal. What's more likely is that he was investigating them and thus could even be working on four as we speak.

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    • Don't think so because there would be no use for it seeing as the blueprint needs only the three journals and I think while he at first created the journals as an encyclopedia of gravity falls their true purpose were the portal blueprints

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    • Logical, but he may have still been investigating them.

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    • Interesting that he woke up on the mini-golf course and said "What am I doing here?" It's like he was sleepwalking, possibly under the influence of Bill. Stan said something like that when a golf ball hit him in "Carpet Diem," another possible sleepwalking incident.

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    • That is a normal person's reaction to a night of sleep walking, unfortunately OMG isn't normal so it's still under debate.

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    • Maybe he was reliving his author days in his sleep and he went to the same place where the mini golf course is now back when he was sane. Maybe there was some kind of paranormal activity there before and he was investigating it.

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    • Koldun007 wrote: Maybe he was reliving his author days in his sleep and he went to the same place where the mini golf course is now back when he was sane. Maybe there was some kind of paranormal activity there before and he was investigating it.

      I wonder why the page shown at the end of the episode has the windmill on it. If that's a real in-universe page, it must have been written since the mini-golf course was built.

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    • Maybe the mill in the golf course was based on a real mill that stood there before.

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    • I've seen stranger, in cartoons that is.

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    • And there are usually recreations of famous monuments in small towns.

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    • And usually in Minigolf courses, no think the windmill was just meant to represent the liliputians in general since the dutch windmills are the ones we have the most interaction with.

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    • I found a huge piece of evidence that absolutely proves OMG is the author. Go on youtube.com and type old man mcgucket is the author. After watching it there's only two questions about the author left: What happened to him and how did he live that long.

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    • Dude, we knew all of that already, it's still just conjecture. For all we know the writers are setting up McGucket as an elaborate red herring.

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    • Then how come no one mentioned it?

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    • I believe the screen shot was added to his gallery page at some point, but we've been speculating on the bandaged arm from where his finger was cut off for month's now.

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    • You know what I think? I think you just want to down everybody with your posts. I mean, if I just rejected everybody's posts like that, I would be just plain old mean.

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    • Okay first off I didn't try to shoot down anyone's post, you had a theory, I agreed with it, I thought it was already mentioned it seems I was wrong. Friends?

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    • Oh really. Have you read your posts? If you still think you aren't trying to down anyone, I'll post your earlier comments.

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    • I argue points, that is what a debate is for!

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote: Two alternate versions of Blendin? Now that is messed up!

      Argue? Whatever, lets get back on topic.

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    • Brandon Storm9 wrote: Also what makes you think they even have need for band-aids in 2070-whatever, for all we know they have a laser beam thingimabob that heals people in like .000004 seconds or something or something even more advance, so why in the name of sanity would Blendin even carry around band-aids?

      Need any more proof? Sorry, I just had to add this one too.

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    • My apologies if I sound rude that was not my intent, but in a discussion you post your opinions and either argue them or agree with them, occasionally you provide proof of them like in your video, which I thank you for by the way.

      If it's a good one you start a flame war and get a lot of attention and therefore lots of theories, opinions, arguments, agreements and yes evidence. I had seen the leaked photograph and made the connection but didn't post it because I thought someone else already had, for all we know it was and then taken down.

      Finally my put downs as you put it was my attempt to insert logic where it doesn't belong, crazy I know but it was my opinion.

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    • Ok. Well, as long as you weren't trying to be mean. And now I see your point. Anyhoo, let's get back on track.

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    • I wonder why then would omg would investigate the liliputtians seeing as he is no longer the author. Perhaps he wants to use their designs in his inventions?

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    • Agreed. In any-case our discussion about who is ruder has wasted enough space. Apparently an upcoming episode is titled Soos and the Real Girl. If I were a guessing man I would say that It's a Soos centric episode where he unlocks the computer a befriends it's artificial intelligence.

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    • Yeah. Just like in the season 2 trailer.

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    • You know, the pixel woman.

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    • I see that the next gravity falls episode is going to be on...SEPTEMBER 8! Nooooooo!

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    • Ok. OMG is the author. Now since that's out of the way, and while we're uncovering the mystery of why he went crazy, let's talk about the wheel that surrounded Bill when he disappeared in Dreamscapers. I believe ther's a connection between the wheel and Bill saying pine tree (Dipper), shooting star (Mabel), and question mark (Soos). I believe that the wheel represents people. Here's what I got: Wendy is ice (because of the times Dipper tried to bring ice to Wendy), Stan is the symbol on his fez, Gideon is the star, OMG is the hand, and Robbie is the heart. This theory is about the glasses symbol: the theories about Stan having a brother might be true. Stan's brother must be the glasses (the same ones found in Carpet Diem). I'm still working on who the llama is. ANyways my theory is that if they are all in the same room as the three journals, Bill might be able to manifest himself in the real world without being summoned.

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    • I believe that there was a theory somewhere that the Larry King wax statue head is the llama, something about "llama's are nature's warriors." Alternatively some of the symbols might have less to do with people and more to do with locations of significance. The ice for example might refer to the supermarket from the inconveniencing.

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    • Possibly. But I've also seen theories saying either the lumberjack or Pacifica is the llama. I don't know which of the theories is true though.

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    • And don't forget that Mabel's mirror clone, Lebam (if she exists) would make a very good llama.

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    • Mirror clone? Is that even a thing in this show? Well they've done clones before but I suppose this would be more like a evil twin from another universe.

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    • Anyways, lets keep on track here. So we've got these theories on the llama: Wax Larry King, the lumberjack, Pacifica, and Lebam(?). Which one's sound more realistic, and if anyone else has theories about the wheel, please post them.

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    • If I could offer another theory. In the same way that the ice could refer to the supermarket, the llama, glasses and others could refer to locations in Gravity falls, with the star serving as the connecting point.

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    • Pacifica. Sounds like the most likely person to be the llama and the theory about the locations would mean the llama is the petting zoo?

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    • Can someone explain to me the Pacifica/Llama connection. It may seem obvious to some but not me.

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    • Like I said, Pacifica as the llama is just a theory. But if the wheel represents places, then what is the connection to Bill? And remember about what Bill called Dipper, Mabel, and Soos.

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    • I said some of the symbols represent locations, just like some of them represent people. Perhaps Bill is at the center of a prophecy where if the people and locations where to unite in some way he'll become all powerful or something like that.

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    • I don't like the idea of mixing people and locations on the wheel. When Bill says he will be watching them, he spins a light around on his wheel, like he's looking at them one after another. It seems like he's watching them all equally, and locations wouldn't need as much watching as people.

      There are some indications in "The Hand that Rocks the Mabel" that Gideon created a magical clone of Mabel. (My Pinterest board and the tumblr page of TheSqoou have more details and supporting images, and I did a fan fiction called "The Life of Lebam"). Mabel was wearing the llama sweater on their first date, so a mirrored version of that sweater on the wheel suggests a reverse Mabel, "Lebam."

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    • Interesting. Interesting. So than other symbols then: the glasses, some have argued that they're suppose to represent Stan as they clearly resemble his old pair, but the fish symbol on his hat is far more likely. So here's a question: what do the glasses represent, I have a theory that in the same way that ice found a the super market is suppose to represent the supermarket the glasses represent the Mystery Shack.

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    • Then, if the symbols represent places, what does the fez symbol represent? Besides, when Bill said I'll be watching you, he probably already was by his appearances in the previous episodes. Which means we may find a connection if we keep on seeing him in season two, like as the A on the mystery shack or something.

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    • I said some of the symbols, and we already know Bill's gonna appear in season 2, he was in the trailer for season 2. Logically if every Bill cameo in season 1 was really Bill in disguise then he's been watching the pines closely throughout their adventures, and theirs probably a few more Bill Cameo's throughout the first three episodes of season 2 that we haven't found yet.

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    • True.

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    • New theory on who the llama is. I heard that the llama may be Tyler. I don't believe this theory.

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    • I don't see the connection either.

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    • I know right. And PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO POST ANYTHING BUT HAVE THEORIES POST YOUR THEORIES NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Question Mark: Soos

      Ice: Wendy

      Fez symbol: Stanford

      Pine tree: Dipper

      Pentagram: Gideon

      Hand: Author (possibly McGucket or even Stanley)

      Llama: Pacifica (or Lebam)

      Shooting Star: Mabel

      Heart: Robbie

      Glasses: Stanley (does anyone know why there is an arrow pointing to the glasses? Maybe it's becuase Stanely went missing?)

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    • Working under the assumption that all the symbols refer to people

      Question Mark-Soos

      Ice-Wendy

      Fish-Stan

      Dipper-Pine Tree

      Star-Gideon Gleeful

      Hand-Author/Old Man McGucket

      Llama-Larry King statue

      Shooting Star-Mabel

      Heart-Robbie

      Glasses-Past Stan?/former owner of the Mystery Shack

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    • I believe the arrow was meant to show the weakest link, and the author had to get rid of him to stop Bill. Either that or, after seeing another new theory that says the people the symbols on the wheel join together to stop Bill, that the author really needs to get him back.

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    • Wait, I just realized that the Bill Cipher wheel was in book 2, so never mind about the theory to stop Bill. But remembering that does give proof to my theory about Bill being summoned, because in 2 the author didn't know who or what Bill was.

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    • None the less the fact that the arrow points to the glasses exclusively indicates that they in particular hold some significance, the fact that they're accompanied by question marks probably means that the Author couldn't figure out a meaning behind them.

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    • Well, have you heard of a Stanly theory? It says that Stanford is going to use the portal to save him because either he died or Bill tried to stop him from killing himself. THAT theory says that Stanly knew about Bill and the wheel.

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    • Hmm. interesting Theory indeed. And lets not forget that Stan stated that he waited thirty years to open the portal, apparently that was the same time that the author changed, perhaps they all worked together, this secret society business in Gravity Falls perhaps.

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    • Yes. And did you see the calendar in Carpet Diem? It said July 4, 1982. That is probably the day Stanly disappeared and/or OMG went crazy.

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    • If OMG really did go crazy. Remember, he could be faking it.

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    • Also true, everything goes back to thirty years ago it would seem.

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    • But why is 30 years ago so important? Why not 20 years, or 40 years? There has to be a reason everything happened 30 years ago.

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    • Seeing as it was marked on the calendar it could be the day the one who started watching OMG did something to him that made him go crazy or pretend to become crazy so he would leave him alone.

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    • plot twist: waddles wrote the books.

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    • Interesting, interesting, or something caused the secret society members to break up.

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    • Wafflecat7 wrote: plot twist: waddles wrote the books.

      Really dude? He's just a pig! And nice theory Brandon.

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    • Joshgoblan wrote:

      Wafflecat7 wrote: plot twist: waddles wrote the books.

      Really dude? He's just a pig!

      And nice theory Brandon.

      hes not just a pig, he's a suspicious pig.

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    • No he isn't. I mean, I know we're supposed to keep an open mind, but this theory is too wild, plus didn't you see the youtube video yet? If you look closely, you can see the same band aid, the same skull, the right hand has six fingers, and the same candle.

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    • But we're getting off topic, back to the Bill Cipher wheel. Do you have any theories?

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    • None beyond what has been said already. That said let us take a moment to take a look at the so called filler episodes, episodes that seem to have no relevant effect on the plot as a whole, of season 1 and see if we can come up with theories on what binds them together with other more plot relevant episodes.

      Tourist Trapped-opening episode, Dipper finds journal 3 obviously very important. Introduces in cameo Blendin Blandin, part of the time traveler's arc.

      The Legend of the Gobblewonker-Introduces OMG and his many eccentricities, if our theory is right he's the author. We know what he said he was doing in that lake, but what was it really? Again Blendin appears.

      Headhunters-Introduces the wax statues, all of them are destroyed except for the Larry King head, what has he been up to all this time? Once more Blendin appears.

      The Hand That Rocks the Mabel-Introduces Gideon, big Season 1 Villain, possibly even season 2.

      The Inconveniencing-Introduces the Dusk 2 Dawn, if my earlier theory about the Ice is correct, then very important to Bill Cipher.

      Dipper vs. Manliness-Introduces Mantitaurs, appears to break up with Dipper on Bad note but could appear later as allies or enemies. Also huge leap in Dipper's character development.

      Double Dipper-Introduces 'magic copy machine' possibly for use in cloning later on. Also of note is that Stan used it to copy the pages from 3, so are all the creatures inside the journal gonna come to life now?

      Irrational Treasure-Quentin Trembly, obviously very important to figuring out the mystery of Gravity Falls, may appear later to reveal it.

      The Time Traveler's Pig-Finishes up the time travel arc, but is this the last we see of Blendin? No, is he finished with this time period? Probably not.

      Fight Fighters-Introduces Rumble McSkirmish and magic arcade machine, well these items of insignificance appear later on?

      Little Dipper-Introduces size altering crystals, but what role will they have in the future?

      Summerween-Introduces the Summerween Trickster, but have we seen the last of him?

      Boss Mabel-Important for Mabel's character development, and the Gremlobin whatever that has to do with anything.

      Bottomless Pit!-Unless there's going to be a big climatic battle in a hole to the center of the earth I doubt this one.

      The Deep End-Introducing Mabel's love interest Mermano, but will he appear again?

      Carpet Diem-Character development, but unless Gideon manages to get his hands on the electron carpet and uses it to break outta jail not likely.

      Boyz Crazy-Wendy breaks up with Robbie, and Several Time'z goes off into the forest to live, but will they reappear?

      Land Before Swine-OMG sticks his nose in where it doesn't belong again, does he have some bizarre fascination with prehistoric creatures? Or is he planning something?

      Dreamscaperers and Gideon Rises-Bill makes his first actual appearance and Gideon is defeated but for good?

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    • Smart ideas. I have to say I can't argue or try to change your views on this. Except that you forgot that Blendin appears in Gideon Rises.

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    • Lets reread this entire article so our theories can be proven again and so we can introduce new theories.

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    • So we all agree, wait until September to continue.

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    • Exactly.

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    • All right see you guys in September.

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    • Yeah, I've seen theories saying the baby is McGucket but personally I don't think so, there isn't enough evidence it could be just a coincidence that the baby has a Band-Aid in the same place though I could be wrong..Idk :p

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    • HE'S BAAACK!

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    • I just had an idea. What if Bill made OMG as crazy as him? Bill is certainly a master of the mind, and he is crazy, what if he removed OMG's memory and made him as crazy as he is? That is probably why OMG was doing what he is doing. Bill placed a mind barrier on OMG, but after all these years, OMG is trying to get his memory and his old life back.

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    • Yeah what if hanging out near supernatural occurences was just his author side trying to jog his memory of investigating these same things. He could be trapped within a prison in his own mind,

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    • Yes! And I believe Bill made that mind prison.

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    • What if bill used omg's memories to construct his prison? Then the guards would be the creatures found in gravity falls and the prison itself would be a nightmarish version of gravity falls.

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    • Did anyone see the band aid on the laptop?

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    • YES i thought the same thing when i saw the band aid on the laptop, but I dont know if soos put it there or not, since he uses ducktape (ps i hope he can refix the lptop)

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    • Okay first off Gravity falls is back! Yay! Second I get the feeling that the 8 letter password is going to be significant, such as MCGUCKET, just to confirm our theories. Thirdly I think that, although far from his intention, Bill actually managed to save the data on the laptop when he broke it, and will go on to become a item of significance in Soos and A real girl.

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    • Remember when Bill said he has big plans for the city? I think I can see a connection with all the seemingly useless information and deduce the truth. First off, has anyone else noticed all the owls in Gravity Falls? The multiple mentioning of owls in Dipper's Guide to the unexplained such as the hide-behind and the paper that keeps on talking about owls in Stan's Tattoo. Then there's the calendar in Carpet Diem with the owl on it, the owl trowel, etc. And then there's The Blindeye Society. It has the Bill eye with a red X on it, it appears multiple times in season 2 (such as the symbol on the fence in The Golf War when the taco shop appears). I believe the owls are meant to keep an eye on Gravity Falls, and that The Blindeye Society is trying to summon Bill. Plus, BLINDEYE is perfect for an eight letter password. Mabey the laptop wasn't the author's, but belonged to the Blindeye Society. The laptop could have loads of data on it about the society and Bill. Also, what if Lazy Susan is the leader of the society? She certainly knows a lot of stuff about Gravity Falls, plus she has "one good eye"! And during the season 2 trailer, we see strange figures in hooded robes with the eye symbol approaching Lazy Susan.

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    • All excellent points Josh, but in the trailer we have the society members approaching a worried Susan, though I agree that Susan is related to the group in some way.

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    • She might need to get into character, either that or she has multiple personality disorder or something like that, and her other self is the leader.

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    • Guys I saw something crucial to gravity falls. When he booted up the laptop the PORTAL appeared meaning the Author must have created the portal

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    • That was kind of obvious. After all, when you put the books together you see the portal.

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    • Oh yeah I forgot about that. Speaking of sock opera I have evidence that the Gompers is bill theory is more true than we think. Think about it, when bill possessed dipper he got the same pattern on his eyes as Gompers which resembles a circular bill.

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    • True. But that could be with all goats in Gravity Falls. Plus, we haven't seen Gompers lately in Gravity Falls.

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    • Actually all goats have eyes like that, see:http://www.quietcrow.org/goats-eye/

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    • I guess so and I don't think an entity as powerful as bill would want to be a goat.

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    • Besides they're not even the right shape, Bill's slant points down while Goats are sideways.

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    • What if Bill took control of the author?

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    • Theoretically possible but the author clearly knows better than to let that happen.

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    • If you think about it what if his mind was invaded during the gap before journals 2 and 3 and once that happened he put the warning not to let him into your mind into journal 3 and after completing it he became the crazy old man he is now.

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    • Plausible. The mind is delicate enough for when you poke at it from the outside, imagine what screwing around with it from the inside would do.

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    • Has anyone wondered when the laptop was made? I mean, the laptop must be younger than the books, but by the looks of it, it seems it might be as old as book 3. I know this is a long shot, but what if the author knew how to make a laptop before the laptop was even invented? That would provide additional proof that OMG is the author.

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    • Well laptop computers have been around since 1983, that was around the time The Author went nuts. I'll keep digging to see what kind of model it was.

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    • I did some research and the computer resembles the Toshiba 111000 which came out in 1986. It isn't much of a stretch that the Author could have had it before he went nuts, and if it's OMG like we think he could have easily made it.

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    • Okay, this is going to sound a bit weird. I believe that there is a special programmer in Gravity Falls. One that created the arcade game that brought Rumble to life, and also created Giffany. Here is my weird theory: what if the programmer is a time traveler (A fake Blendin, if you read the earlier post about two Blandins you'll see where I'm going with this). The programmer could have created the laptop, the games, and (this is where it gets weird) the supernatural monsters in Gravity Falls. I mean look at Rumble, maybe he was the programmer's first attempt. After perfecting it, he went back in time and caused all the supernatural.

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    • I think the big thing concerns the universe portal, imagine a machine that could pluck creature's from all of time and space and deposit them in Gravity Falls. I think that things like Rumble and Giffany are meant to be side-effects of that, like some kind of bizarre reanimation thing.

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    • Maybe, yet this is crazy, OMG plucked the creatures from their universes experimented on them in the bunker also creating some of his own creatures(Shapeshifter) and on the Fourth of July something happened that released all the creatures into gravity falls.

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    • Koldun007 wrote: Maybe, yet this is crazy, OMG plucked the creatures from their universes experimented on them in the bunker also creating some of his own creatures(Shapeshifter) and on the Fourth of July something happened that released all the creatures into gravity falls.

      That actually makes sense. It would explain why the creatures are numbered. Maybe Bill released them, since he specifically said that he ENCOUNTERED Bill in Journal 3.

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    • Despite it not being an offical Gravity Falls track, who thinks that "Made Me Realize" should be used in Gravity Falls? As far as I know, it is composed by the same guy who wrote the Gravity Falls main theme and it sounds so similar that is commonly mistaken for an extended version of the GF main theme. 

      What do you guys think? Here is a youtube link to the song in question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2GmRy64xEQ

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    • I don't think that is relevant to the current discussion here.

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    • Perhaps not. Would it be better to start a new thread on the topic?

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    • Yes, don't do that on this thread. And Vadam, what do you think of the theories on this thread? Any suggestions, or what?

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    • By the way, sorry if I sounded rude.

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    • The thread is too long for me to read the whole thing, but I personally think it's rediculous to think that the baby mentioned is McGucket. He may be the journal writer, but I'm not sure. Everyone thinks McGucket is the writer so I wonder if it will be someone else entirely. 

      What if the portal is a time machine for instance, and Dipper himself is the journal writer?

      I don't put much stock in that idea though. Most of my thoughts on Gravity Falls happen to be ideas and scenarios I think are cool and not backed by any supporting evidence. 

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    • http://gravityfalls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:100997

      Here is the new thread for discussing Gravity Falls music. 

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    • @Thel Vadam4321 That actually sounds like plausible scenario, except that Dipper doesn't have six fingers, but like yah said it's not supported by evidence.

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    • I'm actually a little confused about why the character design is such that some characters, like Stan, have four fingers and a thumb, and others like Soos, Dipper, and Mable have three fingers and thumb. 

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    • The animation style for the show is designed to be very simple, quick and easy, it makes it easy to crank out a-lot of episodes fast, we've been told that we should just imagine that all the characters have ten fingers for narration purposes. Take it for me, as someone who does this kind of thing on occasion, four is easier than five, and a big five is easier than a little four..

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    • I understand that even in 2D animation computers are now used extensively. To what extent are the characters hand drawn and animated in a show like Gravity Falls?

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    • Well computers can only do so much, if this was a CGI show then they could just render the characters and control them like in a video game. Even if you do 2D animation on a computer it still has to be hand drawn, ideally in this case with a tablet. So time saving short-cuts are important.

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    • How about general use then. It makes sense that the characters have to built by hand so to speak. I figure that when Disney made Snow White they had to do each frame by hand. With modern tech, do they do anything like that or do they build sets and models in the computer and then manipulate them. I figure that you can do what is technically 2D animation in a computer.

      In fact, so many random people on youtube do it all the time. Some better than others. 

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    • Probably, I'm no expert on the subject, my apologies if I was misleading, but I'm assuming that they did it like that to save time, and once time was save they left as is because it's such a small detail.

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    • Gravity Falls is a sylized show. It's style fits its tone. It's pretty easy to see that the look is not supposed to be realistic, but it's still fun to talk about. 

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    • also true

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    • There is also a theory on the fingers. If the animators did it just to save time, why not draw all characters with 4 fingers? The theories state that the people with 5 fingers in gravity falls are part of a secret society, not necessarily the blindeye society.

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    • Then wouldn't they call themselves six fingers or the like?

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    • Personally, I'll just assume that finger count is part of the art style and for narrative purposes everyone except the journal writer has four fingers and a thumb. 

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    • Not to be rude but can we get back to discussing the author's identity? Speaking of which have you read the Societey of the Blindeye description?

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    • Thel Vadam4321 wrote:
      http://gravityfalls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:100997

      Here is the new thread for discussing Gravity Falls music. 

      The Gravity Falls forums are so quiet.

      We have no more evidence that will permit further discussion about the journal writier's identity. At the moment, McGucket seems most likely, but I'm not entirely sure. 

      I have wondered about the secret societies. We have seen evidence of the so called Blind Eye society. Some may know of the fabled Illuminati society whose symbol is that of the All Seeing Eye. Seems suspiciously similar to Bill Cipher if you ask me. I postulate that there are two societies. One on Bill's side and the other opposed.

      I have no evidence to support this of course, but it seems plausible and interesting. 

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    • Interesting indeed.

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    • What about the fact that in the episode Mc Gucket will help them? Search "Society of the Blindeye" and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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    • Uh guys, I beat ya all to the McGucket-is-author theory a year or so ago:

      http://gravityfalls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:GravityMan/OLD_MAN_MCGUCKET:_WRITER_OF_3%3F

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    • It isn't a contest. But what of the possibilities I suggest?

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    • Good for you GravityMan.

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    • O.K.... What about the new Gravity Falls episode "SOCIETY OF THE BLINDEYE"? It will show plenty of answers about them.

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    • Thel Vadam4321 wrote:
      Thel Vadam4321 wrote:
      http://gravityfalls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:100997Here is the new thread for discussing Gravity Falls music. 
      The Gravity Falls forums are so quiet.

      We have no more evidence that will permit further discussion about the journal writier's identity. At the moment, McGucket seems most likely, but I'm not entirely sure. 

      I have wondered about the secret societies. We have seen evidence of the so called Blind Eye society. Some may know of the fabled Illuminati society whose symbol is that of the All Seeing Eye. Seems suspiciously similar to Bill Cipher if you ask me. I postulate that there are two societies. One on Bill's side and the other opposed.

      I have no evidence to support this of course, but it seems plausible and interesting. 

      What do you think of this idea regarding secret societies?

      I am boiling with anticipation over the "Society of the Blindeye" episode. I wish its release weren't so far away. 

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    • My theory of the Bill Cipher Wheel:

      Opening Bill Cipher Wheel

      Here it is

      • Pine Tree - Pete the Pickle
      • The Symbol on Stan's Fez - The Shape Bandit
      • Ice Bag - The potato I just ate
      • Question Mark - The random enderman on the side of the street
      • Glasses - Ash Ketchup
      • The Symbol on Robbie's Sweater - Uncle Grandpa
      • Shooting Star - Taylor Swift
      • Llama - Hilbert Hoover
      • Hand - The Creepy Owl
      • Star - Jeff the Killer
      • Bill Cipher - An alpaca's eyeball
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    • Okay, good joke, not really helpful but good all the same.

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    • Supposedly, isn't Stanford also a member or ex-member of a secret society?

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    • That's the rumor going around, it would explain his mysterious uber important tattoo.

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    • O.K., The Blindeye Society episode shot down a lot of ideas. But that doesn't explain the leaked photo. I don't think it was meant to keep us off track. Or mabey it was. I don't know!

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    • Blindeye showed that mcgucket was the authors assistant, and created the ray to empty his mind of what he saw.

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    • McGucket created the mind wipe gun himself. He was the one who founded the Society of the Blind Eye. 

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    • I think the leaked photo was either a red herring or he was going to be the author but they changed it.

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    • Possibly, McGucket was their original plan but after the photo was leaked they changed it. One thing we do know is that we have someone who resembles McGucket writing the Journal, but as we know what McGucket as a young man looked like we know that it wasn't him in the photo.

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    • What if mc Gucket was impersonated by the author, or he's his twin brother.

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    • The picture of McGucket writing seems to be completely jossed now. At the time he could have added to the journals (while he was still working on the portal project with the Author) McGucket was clean-shaven. When he started growing a beard his hair had turned prematurely gray and he was going bald on top, a side effect of overuse of the memory machine.

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    • What if after using the memorory machine he, in his insanity returned to help the author?

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    • His hair is the wrong shade in that faked picture. It's a darker brown than his true color.

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    • It must be faked; I was thinking that picture was really awkward looking. In what context would the expression and pose make sense? It looks like he is posing for a photo. In other words, it was most definitely faked.

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    • More proof it was faked: remember when in the memories he said where he got the hat, look at his hair, it was white, yet in the image his hat was hanging on a rack and his hair was brown. This took place after he got it or else he would not have his hat then because I don't think his hair turned brown over time.

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    • Jaydom Studios wrote:
      My theory of the Bill Cipher Wheel:
      Opening Bill Cipher Wheel

      Here it is

      • Pine Tree - Pete the Pickle
      • The Symbol on Stan's Fez - The Shape Bandit
      • Ice Bag - The potato I just ate
      • Question Mark - The random enderman on the side of the street
      • Glasses - Ash Ketchup
      • The Symbol on Robbie's Sweater - Uncle Grandpa
      • Shooting Star - Taylor Swift
      • Llama - Hilbert Hoover
      • Hand - The Creepy Owl
      • Star - Jeff the Killer
      • Bill Cipher - An alpaca's eyeball


      THIS WAS MY HEADCANON BEFORE IT WAS DISPROVED IN TAKE BACK THE FALLS :°

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