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  • So with the new episode having just come out (the last mablecorn) people are obviously worked up. Lots of new info, but what stuck out most to me is that bill used to control Ford, and, most notabley, will pick a new host. Someone who does not live in the mystery shack. 

    Its pacifica. Here is why, when Pacifica was first introduced she was a sort of antagonist twords the twins but after the northwest mansion mystery episode she was revealed to be a bit more of a complex charachter and a potential love intrest for dipper. This will play out well if Bill controls Pacifica because after them just gaining trust it will hurt all the more if she becomes one of the worst villians on the show, and might lead to some reveal of feelings from dipper ;)

    Plus i think if he controlled anyone else on the show it might be a bit silly


    P.S. didnt even think about lil gideon. He is just as possible too.

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    • My money's on Robbie.  I'm basing this mainly on the cipher wheel.  If you look at the symbols on it, you see symbols relating to Dipper, Mabel, Stan, Ford, Soos, Gideon and Robbie (and possibly Blendin, but I personally have my doubts on that one).  The odd one out is Robbie as all of the others have already been involved with Bill in one way or another.  I think that changes soon.

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    • My vote's on Soos. First off, in the cryptogram it says "a simple man with eager ears". I mean this is the best way when I say Soos could be called a "simple" person. And if you think about it, he means well and is always around to listen if someone needs a person to listen to them or to talk to.

      They haven't explained why they go on a road trip in the next episode if they just said they're only safe from Bill inside the Shack. If it turns out to be a 'whoever has been in the Shack' kinda deal, Soos wasn't there when they Bill-proofed it. Even if he does go over, there's still time for Bill to get to him.

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    • I just hope that whoever Bill uses as a pawn isn't the character who "doesn't make it to the end of the season"

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    • I highly doubt it but I'd love if it was Pacifica. If you have any preference then you should share it .

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    • I instantly thought Soos, since he interacted with the Pines family often and was someone they trusted. But my friend said they thought it could be Pacifica and I agree. So either Pacifica or Soos.

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    • No matter who it does end up being, I think it's going to be someone on Bill's wheel. The only characters we've seen Bill have any extended contact with (and/or manipulate/make deals with) has a symbol on the wheel, Mabel, Dipper, Ford, Gideon, Stan (entered his Mindscape), Soos

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    • A little off topic, but why doesn't Bill just create a body?

      Obviously he would have to posses someone during the time period that the body was being made, but (as silly as it is) I receantly read a fanfiction where that idea was used. Alchemy, I believe. (Not refering to the anime of course.)

      Emample of the use and theory of Alchemy is the homunculus, which could work, since Bill is kind of small already.

      This way he wouldn't need to worry about being pushed out by the bodies' original conscious. Because there wouldn't be one. But then again I'm no Alchemy expert nor do I perticularly know that much about it, so my idea might be all nul and void.

      As a side note: If anyone is going to be possed then the first shall be Gideon.

      From then on it's uncharted waters.

      But I wonder why the symbols connected to certain characters are even on the wheel... Unless it has something to do with the portal...

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    • Ra-pocky wrote: A little off topic, but why doesn't Bill just create a body?

      Obviously he would have to posses someone during the time period that the body was being made, but (as silly as it is) I receantly read a fanfiction where that idea was used. Alchemy, I believe. (Not refering to the anime of course.)

      Emample of the use and theory of Alchemy is the homunculus, which could work, since Bill is kind of small already.

      This way he wouldn't need to worry about being pushed out by the bodies' original conscious. Because there wouldn't be one. But then again I'm no Alchemy expert nor do I perticularly know that much about it, so my idea might be all nul and void.

      As a side note: If anyone is going to be possed then the first shall be Gideon.

      From then on it's uncharted waters.

      But I wonder why the symbols connected to certain characters are even on the wheel... Unless it has something to do with the portal...

      Bill can't create anything in the real world, only the mindscape, so he needs to possess someone.

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    • Dragonian King wrote:

      Ra-pocky wrote: A little off topic, but why doesn't Bill just create a body?

      Obviously he would have to posses someone during the time period that the body was being made, but (as silly as it is) I receantly read a fanfiction where that idea was used. Alchemy, I believe. (Not refering to the anime of course.)

      Emample of the use and theory of Alchemy is the homunculus, which could work, since Bill is kind of small already.

      This way he wouldn't need to worry about being pushed out by the bodies' original conscious. Because there wouldn't be one. But then again I'm no Alchemy expert nor do I perticularly know that much about it, so my idea might be all nul and void.

      As a side note: If anyone is going to be possed then the first shall be Gideon.

      From then on it's uncharted waters.

      But I wonder why the symbols connected to certain characters are even on the wheel... Unless it has something to do with the portal...

      Bill can't create anything in the real world, only the mindscape, so he needs to possess someone.

      I already said that he would have to posses someone will making a body. (If he were even going to.)

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    • Ra-pocky wrote:

      Dragonian King wrote:

      Ra-pocky wrote: A little off topic, but why doesn't Bill just create a body?

      Obviously he would have to posses someone during the time period that the body was being made, but (as silly as it is) I receantly read a fanfiction where that idea was used. Alchemy, I believe. (Not refering to the anime of course.)

      Emample of the use and theory of Alchemy is the homunculus, which could work, since Bill is kind of small already.

      This way he wouldn't need to worry about being pushed out by the bodies' original conscious. Because there wouldn't be one. But then again I'm no Alchemy expert nor do I perticularly know that much about it, so my idea might be all nul and void.

      As a side note: If anyone is going to be possed then the first shall be Gideon.

      From then on it's uncharted waters.

      But I wonder why the symbols connected to certain characters are even on the wheel... Unless it has something to do with the portal...

      Bill can't create anything in the real world, only the mindscape, so he needs to possess someone.

      I already said that he would have to posses someone will making a body. (If he were even going to.)

      Ah. That could work, but he probably wants to possess someone the Pines know and trust.

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    • Dragonian King wrote:

      Ra-pocky wrote:

      Dragonian King wrote:

      Ra-pocky wrote: A little off topic, but why doesn't Bill just create a body?

      Obviously he would have to posses someone during the time period that the body was being made, but (as silly as it is) I receantly read a fanfiction where that idea was used. Alchemy, I believe. (Not refering to the anime of course.)

      Emample of the use and theory of Alchemy is the homunculus, which could work, since Bill is kind of small already.

      This way he wouldn't need to worry about being pushed out by the bodies' original conscious. Because there wouldn't be one. But then again I'm no Alchemy expert nor do I perticularly know that much about it, so my idea might be all nul and void.

      As a side note: If anyone is going to be possed then the first shall be Gideon.

      From then on it's uncharted waters.

      But I wonder why the symbols connected to certain characters are even on the wheel... Unless it has something to do with the portal...

      Bill can't create anything in the real world, only the mindscape, so he needs to possess someone.
      I already said that he would have to posses someone will making a body. (If he were even going to.)
      Ah. That could work, but he probably wants to possess someone the Pines know and trust.

      That or someone the Pine would easily overlook.

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    • Pretty sure it's gonna be Gideon. Just to be short and to the point:

      1. Gideon was one of the few that DIDN'T show up when Bill was cycling through possessable people (I know this seems like it might rule him out... but I can't help but think it means something...)

      2. Gideon just flat out said "I'm finally ready to make a deal" at the end of The Stanchurian Candidate... so yeaaaah. 

      My prediction is that Gideon will make a deal to get out of jail, make the same mistake Dipper did, and get possessed. I mean, he's not even reluctant in the slightlest unlike Dipper, he's literally intending to make a deal with Bill. This is just what I kind of instantly thought when watching the episode and I actually never really thought otherwise lol, I just kind of thought it was slightly obvious (no offence). It just kind of seemed like where the story was headed.


      A MATTER OF FACT NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT... HOLY GUACAMOLE.


      What if that was Bill's intention in Dreamscapers?? His end of the bargain might've been possession! (like his deal with Ford) Oooommmggggg

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    • Valkryie247 wrote:
      Pretty sure it's gonna be Gideon. Just to be short and to the point:

      1. Gideon was one of the few that DIDN'T show up when Bill was cycling through possessable people (I know this seems like it might rule him out... but I can't help but think it means something...)

      2. Gideon just flat out said "I'm finally ready to make a deal" at the end of The Stanchurian Candidate... so yeaaaah. 

      My prediction is that Gideon will make a deal to get out of jail, make the same mistake Dipper did, and get possessed. I mean, he's not even reluctant in the slightlest unlike Dipper, he's literally intending to make a deal with Bill. This is just what I kind of instantly thought when watching the episode and I actually never really thought otherwise lol, I just kind of thought it was slightly obvious (no offence). It just kind of seemed like where the story was headed.


      A MATTER OF FACT NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT... HOLY GUACAMOLE.


      What if that was Bill's intention in Dreamscapers?? His end of the bargain might've been possession! (like his deal with Ford) Oooommmggggg

      Didn't Gideon have a thing for Mabel?

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    • I think it will be Pacifica, and here's why: Bill is looking for someone who is

      A. Doesn't know who he is

      B. Someone who can get into the Mystery Shack without problems 

      C. Someone willing to strike a deal with him, aka, Bill can give them something they want. 

      Gideon makes sense because of the end of the Stanchurian Canidate, but doesn't have access to the Mystery Shack. It's not like the Pines are going to let him in or like that. 

      Soos matches the cryptogram, but he knows who Bill is and the danger he represents. Bill will have to give something Soos really wants/needs in order to strike a deal with him. 

      Lastly, Wendy doesn't desire anything from Bill, so she has no reason to make a deal with him. 

      Pacifica fulfills the requirements. She doesn't know who Bill is, she's friends with Dipper so she's welcomed into the Shack and she has a lot of desires like erasing Northwest's evil history or wanting to become a better person. If you beilve Dipifica then it could be to win Dipper over. Whatever the reason is, there are plenty there for Bill to malipulate Pacifica with. 

      Plus, Pacifica is new to the paranormal, so she is also gullible. This all makes her the perfect pawn in Bill's plan. 

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    • Ra-pocky wrote:
      Dragonian King wrote:

      Ra-pocky wrote: A little off topic, but why doesn't Bill just create a body?

      Obviously he would have to posses someone during the time period that the body was being made, but (as silly as it is) I receantly read a fanfiction where that idea was used. Alchemy, I believe. (Not refering to the anime of course.)

      Emample of the use and theory of Alchemy is the homunculus, which could work, since Bill is kind of small already.

      This way he wouldn't need to worry about being pushed out by the bodies' original conscious. Because there wouldn't be one. But then again I'm no Alchemy expert nor do I perticularly know that much about it, so my idea might be all nul and void.

      As a side note: If anyone is going to be possed then the first shall be Gideon.

      From then on it's uncharted waters.

      But I wonder why the symbols connected to certain characters are even on the wheel... Unless it has something to do with the portal...

      Bill can't create anything in the real world, only the mindscape, so he needs to possess someone.
      I already said that he would have to posses someone will making a body. (If he were even going to.)

      If that were the case, I don't think he would need to possess a body (in fact, if my thought on how it would work is correct, he couldn't possess a body for it to work). He would need a corporeal being to perform the alchemical task (i.e. creating a homunculus or any sort of body for Bill). I don't think it would work if Bill were possessing the person because it needs a human, external source to do the task. Also, he would need an enormous amount of energy; equivalent to dozens or hundreds of human lives.

      So, going with this theory and if my knowledge of alchemy is correct, he would need to convince a person to perform alchemy that would kill a crap ton of people. Yes, this can be done without the person knowing they're killing people, but that is the only way to get him a body.

      I like the theory and it would be cool, but it certainly couldn't work if Bill were directly involved in the process in any way whatsoever.

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      Ra-pocky wrote:
      Dragonian King wrote:

      Ra-pocky wrote: A little off topic, but why doesn't Bill just create a body?

      Obviously he would have to posses someone during the time period that the body was being made, but (as silly as it is) I receantly read a fanfiction where that idea was used. Alchemy, I believe. (Not refering to the anime of course.)

      Emample of the use and theory of Alchemy is the homunculus, which could work, since Bill is kind of small already.

      This way he wouldn't need to worry about being pushed out by the bodies' original conscious. Because there wouldn't be one. But then again I'm no Alchemy expert nor do I perticularly know that much about it, so my idea might be all nul and void.

      As a side note: If anyone is going to be possed then the first shall be Gideon.

      From then on it's uncharted waters.

      But I wonder why the symbols connected to certain characters are even on the wheel... Unless it has something to do with the portal...

      Bill can't create anything in the real world, only the mindscape, so he needs to possess someone.
      I already said that he would have to posses someone will making a body. (If he were even going to.)
      If that were the case, I don't think he would need to possess a body (in fact, if my thought on how it would work is correct, he couldn't possess a body for it to work). He would need a corporeal being to perform the alchemical task (i.e. creating a homunculus or any sort of body for Bill). I don't think it would work if Bill were possessing the person because it needs a human, external source to do the task. Also, he would need an enormous amount of energy; equivalent to dozens or hundreds of human lives.

      So, going with this theory and if my knowledge of alchemy is correct, he would need to convince a person to perform alchemy that would kill a crap ton of people. Yes, this can be done without the person knowing they're killing people, but that is the only way to get him a body.

      I like the theory and it would be cool, but it certainly couldn't work if Bill were directly involved in the process in any way whatsoever.

      Well I did say I wasn't an expert, but I like how you put it and it does make more sense than the blip I posted. But I'm also glad that you seem to agree on a level with the idea of it.

      Though here's a question, if a lot of energy is needed... Couldn't Bill just give said human that would do the task some of his energy. (I ask this beacause Bill or other said he was made of pure energy, yada yada.)

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    • Darlene.

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    • Ra-pocky wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      Ra-pocky wrote:
      Dragonian King wrote:

      Ra-pocky wrote: A little off topic, but why doesn't Bill just create a body?

      Obviously he would have to posses someone during the time period that the body was being made, but (as silly as it is) I receantly read a fanfiction where that idea was used. Alchemy, I believe. (Not refering to the anime of course.)

      Emample of the use and theory of Alchemy is the homunculus, which could work, since Bill is kind of small already.

      This way he wouldn't need to worry about being pushed out by the bodies' original conscious. Because there wouldn't be one. But then again I'm no Alchemy expert nor do I perticularly know that much about it, so my idea might be all nul and void.

      As a side note: If anyone is going to be possed then the first shall be Gideon.

      From then on it's uncharted waters.

      But I wonder why the symbols connected to certain characters are even on the wheel... Unless it has something to do with the portal...

      Bill can't create anything in the real world, only the mindscape, so he needs to possess someone.
      I already said that he would have to posses someone will making a body. (If he were even going to.)
      If that were the case, I don't think he would need to possess a body (in fact, if my thought on how it would work is correct, he couldn't possess a body for it to work). He would need a corporeal being to perform the alchemical task (i.e. creating a homunculus or any sort of body for Bill). I don't think it would work if Bill were possessing the person because it needs a human, external source to do the task. Also, he would need an enormous amount of energy; equivalent to dozens or hundreds of human lives.

      So, going with this theory and if my knowledge of alchemy is correct, he would need to convince a person to perform alchemy that would kill a crap ton of people. Yes, this can be done without the person knowing they're killing people, but that is the only way to get him a body.

      I like the theory and it would be cool, but it certainly couldn't work if Bill were directly involved in the process in any way whatsoever.

      Well I did say I wasn't an expert, but I like how you put it and it does make more sense than the blip I posted. But I'm also glad that you seem to agree on a level with the idea of it.

      Though here's a question, if a lot of energy is needed... Couldn't Bill just give said human that would do the task some of his energy. (I ask this beacause Bill or other said he was made of pure energy, yada yada.)

      (Sorry if I sound obnoxious with my alchemy rant. I like reading about and watching stuff like that, so I nerd out hard lol)

      As far as Bill providing energy, it wouldn't work for two reasons. 1) Like I said before, he can't be involved in the process. So, using his own energy to catalyze the process would mean that he is involved in the process (I guess a weird way to think about it is that what you're trying to have an effect on (Bill) can't be part of the equation (using his energy)). 2) He did say he's "a being of pure energy with no weakness", but that is only true when he is in the Nightmare Realm or in the Mindscape. When Bill was in Dipper's body, he was limited to what the human body can do (notice how he didn't use any telekinesis, or any abilities) and he was subject to Dipper's body's weaknesses (how he was defeated by tickles). So, even if he could provide his energy for the process, there's no way he could provide it in the real world (he can only affect things in the mindscape)

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    • Screamteamcreator wrote: I think it will be Pacifica, and here's why: Bill is looking for someone who is

      A. Doesn't know who he is

      B. Someone who can get into the Mystery Shack without problems 

      C. Someone willing to strike a deal with him, aka, Bill can give them something they want. 

      Gideon makes sense because of the end of the Stanchurian Canidate, but doesn't have access to the Mystery Shack. It's not like the Pines are going to let him in or like that. 

      Soos matches the cryptogram, but he knows who Bill is and the danger he represents. Bill will have to give something Soos really wants/needs in order to strike a deal with him. 

      Lastly, Wendy doesn't desire anything from Bill, so she has no reason to make a deal with him. 

      Pacifica fulfills the requirements. She doesn't know who Bill is, she's friends with Dipper so she's welcomed into the Shack and she has a lot of desires like erasing Northwest's evil history or wanting to become a better person. If you beilve Dipifica then it could be to win Dipper over. Whatever the reason is, there are plenty there for Bill to malipulate Pacifica with. 

      Plus, Pacifica is new to the paranormal, so she is also gullible. This all makes her the perfect pawn in Bill's plan. 

      This is my first time posting on these forums so I don't know a lot about the theories that people have but Pacifica sounds like a likely candidate. Does the tapestry seen at the end of Northwest Mystery Manor add anything to this theory?

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    • Swampbender55 wrote:

      Screamteamcreator wrote: I think it will be Pacifica, and here's why: Bill is looking for someone who is

      A. Doesn't know who he is

      B. Someone who can get into the Mystery Shack without problems 

      C. Someone willing to strike a deal with him, aka, Bill can give them something they want. 

      Gideon makes sense because of the end of the Stanchurian Canidate, but doesn't have access to the Mystery Shack. It's not like the Pines are going to let him in or like that. 

      Soos matches the cryptogram, but he knows who Bill is and the danger he represents. Bill will have to give something Soos really wants/needs in order to strike a deal with him. 

      Lastly, Wendy doesn't desire anything from Bill, so she has no reason to make a deal with him. 

      Pacifica fulfills the requirements. She doesn't know who Bill is, she's friends with Dipper so she's welcomed into the Shack and she has a lot of desires like erasing Northwest's evil history or wanting to become a better person. If you beilve Dipifica then it could be to win Dipper over. Whatever the reason is, there are plenty there for Bill to malipulate Pacifica with. 

      Plus, Pacifica is new to the paranormal, so she is also gullible. This all makes her the perfect pawn in Bill's plan. 

      This is my first time posting on these forums so I don't know a lot about the theories that people have but Pacifica sounds like a likely candidate. Does the tapestry seen at the end of Northwest Mystery Manor add anything to this theory?

      I think the tapestry means that someone in the Northwest family has made a deal with Bill. It's intresting because when Bill confronts Ford in the beginning of the Last Mabelcorn he said he's been chatting with "friends". But the only ally Bill has is Gideon. This means another person in the show has not only been in contact with Bill, but is allied with him. Does anyone smell... Preston Northwest? 

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    • Swampbender55 wrote:

      Screamteamcreator wrote: I think it will be Pacifica, and here's why: Bill is looking for someone who is

      A. Doesn't know who he is

      B. Someone who can get into the Mystery Shack without problems 

      C. Someone willing to strike a deal with him, aka, Bill can give them something they want. 

      Gideon makes sense because of the end of the Stanchurian Canidate, but doesn't have access to the Mystery Shack. It's not like the Pines are going to let him in or like that. 

      Soos matches the cryptogram, but he knows who Bill is and the danger he represents. Bill will have to give something Soos really wants/needs in order to strike a deal with him. 

      Lastly, Wendy doesn't desire anything from Bill, so she has no reason to make a deal with him. 

      Pacifica fulfills the requirements. She doesn't know who Bill is, she's friends with Dipper so she's welcomed into the Shack and she has a lot of desires like erasing Northwest's evil history or wanting to become a better person. If you beilve Dipifica then it could be to win Dipper over. Whatever the reason is, there are plenty there for Bill to malipulate Pacifica with. 

      Plus, Pacifica is new to the paranormal, so she is also gullible. This all makes her the perfect pawn in Bill's plan. 

      This is my first time posting on these forums so I don't know a lot about the theories that people have but Pacifica sounds like a likely candidate. Does the tapestry seen at the end of Northwest Mystery Manor add anything to this theory?

      Welcome to the forums ;) The tapestry is a good point. It could be counted as evidence towards one of the Northwests being Bill's next pawn.

      I still wonder why Preston Northwest had a memory tube on the shelf in the Society's secret room (next to McGucket, and assumedly on a pressure plate, meaning it's important...) But, that's a conspiracy theory for another time, unless it's something about Bill in there. Who knows

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      Swampbender55 wrote:

      Screamteamcreator wrote: I think it will be Pacifica, and here's why: Bill is looking for someone who is

      A. Doesn't know who he is

      B. Someone who can get into the Mystery Shack without problems 

      C. Someone willing to strike a deal with him, aka, Bill can give them something they want. 

      Gideon makes sense because of the end of the Stanchurian Canidate, but doesn't have access to the Mystery Shack. It's not like the Pines are going to let him in or like that. 

      Soos matches the cryptogram, but he knows who Bill is and the danger he represents. Bill will have to give something Soos really wants/needs in order to strike a deal with him. 

      Lastly, Wendy doesn't desire anything from Bill, so she has no reason to make a deal with him. 

      Pacifica fulfills the requirements. She doesn't know who Bill is, she's friends with Dipper so she's welcomed into the Shack and she has a lot of desires like erasing Northwest's evil history or wanting to become a better person. If you beilve Dipifica then it could be to win Dipper over. Whatever the reason is, there are plenty there for Bill to malipulate Pacifica with. 

      Plus, Pacifica is new to the paranormal, so she is also gullible. This all makes her the perfect pawn in Bill's plan. 

      This is my first time posting on these forums so I don't know a lot about the theories that people have but Pacifica sounds like a likely candidate. Does the tapestry seen at the end of Northwest Mystery Manor add anything to this theory?
      Welcome to the forums ;) The tapestry is a good point. It could be counted as evidence towards one of the Northwests being Bill's next pawn.

      I still wonder why Preston Northwest had a memory tube on the shelf in the Society's secret room (next to McGucket, and assumedly on a pressure plate, meaning it's important...) But, that's a conspiracy theory for another time, unless it's something about Bill in there. Who knows

      Yeah, the memory tube, the tapstry, and one more thing that I'm surprised no one has touched upon is that painting of that General when Pacifica discovered the painted record of every horrible thing her family has done. Each person is shown doing something evil... Except for the General. Who is he? It feels like the Northwests are going to play a bigger role in future episodes. But like you said. Who know. 

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    • My first instinct on who it would be was Gideon, but after thinking about it for a few minutes, I thought it could be Stan, as it seems Alex has made it a point not to make Stan know about Bill. In Dreamscapers, Stan was asleep during the entire plot of the episode. In Sock Opera, Bill possessed Dipper, and Stan only thought of Bipper and Mabel's fight as a fight between Dipper and Mabel. In A Tale of Two Stans, Ford never explicitly mentions Bill. And in The Last Mabelcorn, Stan is absent during the family meeting. I just find it strange that Stan hasn't once seen Bill, and a page about Bill even seems absent from Journal 1, the journal Stan has had, and possibly the only one he has read all the way through, trying to find a way to save his brother.

      Stan is also obviously very upset with Ford for not thanking him for saving him. He obviously doesn't understand the risks of the portal, and doesn't even know about the interdimensional rift. It would be far too easy for Bill to be able to manipulate Stan because of his ignorance, and I believe it will be Stan's ignorance that causes the apocalypse, or whatever Bill has planned.

      Also, who cares if the Mystery Shack is protected by Bill, Stan's mind isn't, nor is Mabel's, and I don't believe even Dipper's mind is fully protected. All we can really say is the only person who it won't be is Ford, who is in the Mystery Shack 24/7, and has his brain protected by the metal plate embedded in his head.

      Update: After a little more research, I am even more convinced it will be Stan, considering the cryptogram at the end of the Last Mabelcorn stating "A simple man with eager ears may trust the whispers that he hears." At first, I shrugged, and thought it was referring to Ford, and his past friendship with Bill, but then I remembered a quote from Bud in the Stanchurin Candidate, "Your face is more ears than it is face." At the time, that seemed like just an insult, but then you realize, Stan's face is more ears than it is face, and those ears are eager for a thanks from his brother.

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    • AnonymousDuckLover wrote:
      My first instinct on who it would be was Gideon, but after thinking about it for a few minutes, I thought it could be Stan, as it seems Alex has made it a point not to make Stan know about Bill. In Dreamscapers, Stan was asleep during the entire plot of the episode. In Sock Opera, Bill possessed Dipper, and Stan only thought of Bipper and Mabel's fight as a fight between Dipper and Mabel. In A Tale of Two Stans, Ford never explicitly mentions Bill. And in The Last Mabelcorn, Stan is absent during the family meeting. I just find it strange that Stan hasn't once seen Bill, and a page about Bill even seems absent from Journal 1, the journal Stan has had, and possibly the only one he has read all the way through, trying to find a way to save his brother.

      Stan is also obviously very upset with Ford for not thanking him for saving him. He obviously doesn't understand the risks of the portal, and doesn't even know about the interdimensional rift. It would be far too easy for Bill to be able to manipulate Stan because of his ignorance, and I believe it will be Stan's ignorance that causes the apocalypse, or whatever Bill has planned.

      Also, who cares if the Mystery Shack is protected by Bill, Stan's mind isn't, nor is Mabel's, and I don't believe even Dipper's mind is fully protected. All we can really say is the only person who it won't be is Ford, who is in the Mystery Shack 24/7, and has his brain protected by the metal plate embedded in his head.

      Update: After a little more research, I am even more convinced it will be Stan, considering the cryptogram at the end of the Last Mabelcorn stating "A simple man with eager ears may trust the whispers that he hears." At first, I shrugged, and thought it was referring to Ford, and his past friendship with Bill, but then I remembered a quote from Bud in the Stanchurin Candidate, "Your face is more ears than it is face." At the time, that seemed like just an insult, but then you realize, Stan's face is more ears than it is face, and those ears are eager for a thanks from his brother.

      Going with that theory/idea: In Dreamscaperers, when Gideon said he wanted something that "Stanford" had. Gideon was referring to Stanley although he had/has no clue about the twin situation, but Bill obviously knows the difference between the two. (Besides his interaction with Ford in The Last Mabelcorn, another piece of evidence for his knowledge is that the symbol that got burned onto Stanley was flashed Bill was thinking "Stan Pines" in Dreamscaperers. He seemed very pleased to have the opportunity to go into Stanley's mind.

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    • When I first saw the idea of Bill getting a new host I originally thought Mccgucket was going to be the host due to

      1) Ford never telling him about Bill "where are you getting these ideas? who are you working with?".

      2) Was friends with Ford and is friends with The Mystery Shack (with the exception of Stanley) so he could enter without difficulty and it would build tension with Stanley.

      3) He ran away from the town when the goverment arrived so it would it reference Bill's quote on finding someone from the outside i.e outside of Gravity Falls.

      4) He's already out of his mind so there would be no changes to his personality if possessed so its a good disguise.

      But I forgot that Mccgucket already saw Bills dimension "fear the beast with just one eye" so he may remember Bill so he will be difficult to possess or to make a deal with him. Not to mention not being on the cycle of people on Bills list along with his returning sanity.

      But I am open to any theory and will accept faults with this (I am looking at you onlyontuesday we seem to have a history of going against each other in blogs).

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    • Psychoking wrote: When I first saw the idea of Bill getting a new host I originally thought Mccgucket was going to be the host due to

      1) Ford never telling him about Bill "where are you getting these ideas? who are you working with?".

      2) Was friends with Ford and is friends with The Mystery Shack (with the exception of Stanley) so he could enter without difficulty and it would build tension with Stanley.

      3) He ran away from the town when the goverment arrived so it would it reference Bill's quote on finding someone from the outside i.e outside of Gravity Falls.

      4) He's already out of his mind so there would be no changes to his personality if possessed so its a good disguise.

      But I forgot that Mccgucket already saw Bills dimension "fear the beast with just one eye" so he may remember Bill so he will be difficult to possess or to make a deal with him. Not to mention not being on the cycle of people on Bills list along with his returning sanity.

      But I am open to any theory and will accept faults with this (I am looking at you onlyontuesday we seem to have a history of going against each other in blogs).

      I see zero problems with this. Fiddleford is on my list of most likely candidates to be possessed, along with Stan, Gideon, Bud, Soos, Bill Clinton, Dipper, Waddles, Power, Gompers, Candy, and Wax Larry King's head. I honestly could create a whole list of characters I think are, and characters I think aren't candidates for Bill possessing them.

      Still, you make a great point with Fiddleford, he's still making frequent appearances in flashbacks, so he's probably still important.

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    • I like that wax head of Larry King idea.

      New crack theory: Trembley!

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    • ooooh! i kept forgetting to check the forums but im glad to see so many people posting theories and not  hating on me for saying its gonna be pacifica (some even agreed:D) cause a couple hours after i posted it i was thinking about it and was like "wait she isnt on the weel thing CRAP" but to be fair i dont know much about the wheel. can somone explain whose symbol is whose?

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    • @Jinghey

      Pine Tree: Dipper

      Shooting Star: Mabel

      Question Mark: Soos

      Stitch Heart: Robbie

      Star (looks like the star of David): Gideon

      Glasses: Unknown

      Crescent Symbol: Stan

      Ice Bag: Commonly believed that it's Wendy

      Llama/Alpacca: Commonly believed its Pacifica

      Hand: believed to be the Author

      This might not be accurate but there is a Cipher Wheel Page on the wikia.

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    • Psychoking wrote:
      @Jinghey

      Pine Tree: Dipper

      Shooting Star: Mabel

      Question Mark: Soos

      Stitch Heart: Robbie

      Star (looks like the star of David): Gideon

      Glasses: Unknown

      Crescent Symbol: Stan

      Ice Bag: Commonly believed that it's Wendy

      Llama/Alpacca: Commonly believed its Pacifica

      Hand: believed to be the Author

      This might not be accurate but there is a Cipher Wheel Page on the wikia.

      I think we can call it confirmed that the hand is Ford. (Bill called him "Sixer")

      Also, Gideon's symbol does NOT look like the star of david. It is a pentagram. It has 5 points, not 6. (Sorry, but this is a distinction that I feel is important to not mix up)

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    • I think it will be someone who is always in the shack, But not always. I don't know if this means he can't enter the field, But if so, I think either Soos, Which would make sense because Dreamscapers, Wendy, Candy, Or Grenda. Personally I'd like to see Candy or Grenda, But its going to be a crazy episode, I can guarantee it!

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    • oh I forgot about the pentagram. and for the record I said believed for the hand because originally everyone thought Ford was represented by the glasses.

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    • Psychoking wrote:
      oh I forgot about the pentagram. and for the record I said believed for the hand because originally everyone thought Ford was represented by the glasses.

      Sorry, didn't mean to jump on you about those. I also thought the glasses were Ford, but since The Last Mabelcorn, I think it could be argued that the glasses might represent someone else (if everone has only one symbol)

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    • It was a just a simple misunderstanding and there is theory by The Royal Order Of The Holy Makerel. the youtuber says that if the series is about aging and learning from past mistakes. The symbols only reveal to the character that makes a mature decision like Dipper wearing his trademark hat when he decides to hunt for the author, Robbie making the decision to move on while wearing his hoodie.

      He says that the glasses could represent Stanley due to his decision to rescue his brother right after the glasses fall to the ground in front of him. and the hand represents Ford when he made the decision to write about the encounters and creatures.

      Thats his theory in general. do you think he has a point?

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    • Psychoking wrote:
      It was a just a simple misunderstanding and there is theory by The Royal Order Of The Holy Makerel. the youtuber says that if the series is about aging and learning from past mistakes. The symbols only reveal to the character that makes a mature decision like Dipper wearing his trademark hat when he decides to hunt for the author, Robbie making the decision to move on while wearing his hoodie.

      He says that the glasses could represent Stanley due to his decision to rescue his brother right after the glasses fall to the ground in front of him. and the hand represents Ford when he made the decision to write about the encounters and creatures.

      Thats his theory in general. do you think he has a point?

      I don't think so. If you compare that argument with the reason the other symbols are on the wheel, that's really reading into things. To me, it seems that the symbols on the wheel are pretty straightforward (for the ones we can confidently say we know what they are). In fact, how does Robbie fit into the argument? And Mabel's shooting star sweater also doesn't fit into that equation.

      I don't agree with him. Sorry, just being honest.

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    • theres nothing wrong with having a seperate opinion so there nothing to apologise for. But we may find Bill's new host in either next episode or the one after.

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