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  • No, think about it, McGucket said he was an assistant to the Author, but WHAT IF...[[File:Screenshots_2014-11-04-11-45-08.png|thumb|What if he was more than an assistant?]]





    What if Bill wrote them through McGucket ... McGucket erased his memory because of all the things he saw, and STAN WAS IN A GANG OR GROUP DEDICATED TO GETTING THE BOOKS, THATS WHY BILL HATES STAN!

    after bill finished the journals, McGucket realised what had happened; bill had lost his mind, huddled up writing all the books, and tried to warn people!

    [[File:Images_(89).jpg|thumb|To no avail...]]



    Bill left to collect more knowlege, and came back to find his Journals being used for evil, one in possesion of Stamford Pines. He had plans to destroy the portal, and all his books, but Dipper got in the way. Ummm... that's about my entire theory...

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    • If Bill wrote the journals, then why would he have a page about himself?

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    • McGucket, after bill left, wrote 3's bill page, but bill might have written 2's bill page

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    • But McGucket didn't write any part of the journals

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    • DamiedeterJR wrote:
      But McGucket didn't write any part of the journals

      How do we know for sure? He didn't write the journals, but he could have added a part. One part. Bill's part.

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    • And he hid them, so Bill couldn't come back for them

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    • Captainkirk wrote:
      And he hid them, so Bill couldn't come back for them

      EXCACTLY!

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    • Makes enough sense to be deemed a viable theory

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    • Do you think there is a 4?

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    • The pages at the end of the episodes show things that could only be added to the journals during the show.

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    • At this point you could provide "evidence" for any character to have written the journals. It's getting redundant, in my opinion.

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    • Both Journal 2 and 3 talk about Bill as a third person character. He wouldn't have written about himself like that. Also, in gideon rises we see a clip of the author burying the journals, and he's humanoid.


      S1e20 mysterious figure.jpg

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    • Also, I would only consider this a hypothesis. While you seem to have a lot of "content" you do not yet have a lot of "proof".

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    • I'm pretty sure the writers made it as clear as possible without outright stating it that Stan is the author.

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    • Regularshowman wrote:
      I'm pretty sure the writers made it as clear as possible without outright stating it that Stan is the author.

      Stanford or Stanley. Stanford didn't know about the invisible ink, so it couldn't be him.

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:

      Regularshowman wrote:
      I'm pretty sure the writers made it as clear as possible without outright stating it that Stan is the author.

      Stanford or Stanley. Stanford didn't know about the invisible ink, so it couldn't be him.

      Oh yeah! Well then, how come the creators hinted toward it?

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    • Regularshowman wrote:

      Oh yeah! Well then, how come the creators hinted toward it?

      When and how did they hint towards him? I do believe he knew and possibly worked with the author, so that would explain the portal, the glove, etc. But what else do you think hints towards him?

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    • Regularshowman wrote:

      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:

      Regularshowman wrote:
      I'm pretty sure the writers made it as clear as possible without outright stating it that Stan is the author.
      Stanford or Stanley. Stanford didn't know about the invisible ink, so it couldn't be him.
      Oh yeah! Well then, how come the creators hinted toward it?

      How come the creators hinted towards old man McG?

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    • Karrtia wrote:
       
      How come the creators hinted towards old man McG?

      The producers saw how many people though it was him and wanted to get their hopes up. Also, most of the "hints" I don't think were intentional. The bandage may or may not have been their to fake the audience into thinking "six fingered hand". Either way, I don't see many hints for Stanford. What are they exactly?

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Both Journal 2 and 3 talk about Bill as a third person character. He wouldn't have written about himself like that. Also, in gideon rises we see a clip of the author burying the journals, and he's humanoid.

      S1e20 mysterious figure.jpg


      The gnomes looked humanoid in episode 1...

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Regularshowman wrote:
      I'm pretty sure the writers made it as clear as possible without outright stating it that Stan is the author.
      Stanford or Stanley. Stanford didn't know about the invisible ink, so it couldn't be him.


      Unless he had his memory erased...

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Regularshowman wrote:
      I'm pretty sure the writers made it as clear as possible without outright stating it that Stan is the author.
      Stanford or Stanley. Stanford didn't know about the invisible ink, so it couldn't be him.

      Unless he had his memory erased...

      But then how would he rember the journals?

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Both Journal 2 and 3 talk about Bill as a third person character. He wouldn't have written about himself like that. Also, in gideon rises we see a clip of the author burying the journals, and he's humanoid.

      S1e20 mysterious figure.jpg


      The gnomes looked humanoid in episode 1...

      The author's hand as much larger than their's, and I doubt they would write about themselves the way the author did. Also, the author  is a "travelling researcher."

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Both Journal 2 and 3 talk about Bill as a third person character. He wouldn't have written about himself like that. Also, in gideon rises we see a clip of the author burying the journals, and he's humanoid.=S1e20 mysterious figure.jpg=

      The gnomes looked humanoid in episode 1...

      The author's hand as much larger than their's, and I doubt they would write about themselves the way the author did. Also, the author  is a "travelling researcher."

      I didn't mean that they wrote it.  I was just pointing out that a picture of someone's back that appears to be a human standing upright does not automatically mean that it is human.  I don't think that the gnomes wrote the journals

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Regularshowman wrote:
      I'm pretty sure the writers made it as clear as possible without outright stating it that Stan is the author.
      Stanford or Stanley. Stanford didn't know about the invisible ink, so it couldn't be him.

      Unless he had his memory erased...

      But then how would he rember the journals?

      Only some memories erased

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Both Journal 2 and 3 talk about Bill as a third person character. He wouldn't have written about himself like that. Also, in gideon rises we see a clip of the author burying the journals, and he's humanoid.=S1e20 mysterious figure.jpg=

      The gnomes looked humanoid in episode 1...
      The author's hand as much larger than their's, and I doubt they would write about themselves the way the author did. Also, the author  is a "travelling researcher."
      I didn't mean that they wrote it.  I was just pointing out that a picture of someone's back that appears to be a human standing upright does not automatically mean that it is human.  I don't think that the gnomes wrote the journals

      Even then, Bill can neither leave the Dreamscape, have a large, gloved hand, nor appear THAT humanoid from the back, as far as we know. There really isn't any reason to believe that Bill wrote the Journals, ans there's too much supporting the fact that he's not.

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Regularshowman wrote:
      I'm pretty sure the writers made it as clear as possible without outright stating it that Stan is the author.
      Stanford or Stanley. Stanford didn't know about the invisible ink, so it couldn't be him.

      Unless he had his memory erased...
      But then how would he rember the journals?
      Only some memories erased

      Why would the Society of the Blindeye only erase some of his memories. You could probably come up with a good explanation for it, but it would be purely imagination, and not much proof from the show, just like this whole Bill-Author theory going on.

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Both Journal 2 and 3 talk about Bill as a third person character. He wouldn't have written about himself like that. Also, in gideon rises we see a clip of the author burying the journals, and he's humanoid.=S1e20 mysterious figure.jpg=

      The gnomes looked humanoid in episode 1...
      The author's hand as much larger than their's, and I doubt they would write about themselves the way the author did. Also, the author  is a "travelling researcher."
      I didn't mean that they wrote it.  I was just pointing out that a picture of someone's back that appears to be a human standing upright does not automatically mean that it is human.  I don't think that the gnomes wrote the journals
      Even then, Bill can neither leave the Dreamscape, have a large, gloved hand, nor appear THAT humanoid from the back, as far as we know. There really isn't any reason to believe that Bill wrote the Journals, ans there's too much supporting the fact that he's not.

      I agree.

      I would also like to point out that the author could be someone we've never met before.  In Society of the Blind Eye, there was a memory tube for someone we've never met before.  It was on the same shelf as McGucket's (so it is assumedly also on a pressure-sensitive plate).

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:

      I agree.

      I would also like to point out that the author could be someone we've never met before.  In Society of the Blind Eye, there was a memory tube for someone we've never met before.  It was on the same shelf as McGucket's (so it is assumedly also on a pressure-sensitive plate).

      Yes, it will be interesting to find out why their memories were so important :) I would say Mr Northwest's tube being up there is enough proof to hypothesis that he may be the author, although I doubt he is.

      Edit: Oh yes, and that mysterious name is interesting too. I do believe we've never met the author before, because I think it's Stan-LEY, but we don't know anything about that other guy either :)

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:

      I agree.

      I would also like to point out that the author could be someone we've never met before.  In Society of the Blind Eye, there was a memory tube for someone we've never met before.  It was on the same shelf as McGucket's (so it is assumedly also on a pressure-sensitive plate).

      Yes, it will be interesting to find out why their memories were so important :) I would say Mr Northwest's tube being up there is enough proof to hypothesis that he may be the author, although I doubt he is.

      Edit: Oh yes, and that mysterious name is interesting too. I do believe we've never met the author before, because I think it's Stan-LEY, but we don't know anything about that other guy either :)

      I feel like right now, Alex Hirsch is looking at the fan forums and theory blogs about the author and laughing his butt off ;)

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:

      I agree.

      I would also like to point out that the author could be someone we've never met before.  In Society of the Blind Eye, there was a memory tube for someone we've never met before.  It was on the same shelf as McGucket's (so it is assumedly also on a pressure-sensitive plate).

      Yes, it will be interesting to find out why their memories were so important :) I would say Mr Northwest's tube being up there is enough proof to hypothesis that he may be the author, although I doubt he is.

      Edit: Oh yes, and that mysterious name is interesting too. I do believe we've never met the author before, because I think it's Stan-LEY, but we don't know anything about that other guy either :)

      I feel like right now, Alex Hirsch is looking at the fan forums and theory blogs about the author and laughing his butt off ;)

      I feel like that's exactly why he wrote Society of the Blindeye the way he did, to make everyone think they were right about McGucket :P It must be nice for them, knowing all the secrets...

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:

      I agree.

      I would also like to point out that the author could be someone we've never met before.  In Society of the Blind Eye, there was a memory tube for someone we've never met before.  It was on the same shelf as McGucket's (so it is assumedly also on a pressure-sensitive plate).

      Yes, it will be interesting to find out why their memories were so important :) I would say Mr Northwest's tube being up there is enough proof to hypothesis that he may be the author, although I doubt he is.

      Edit: Oh yes, and that mysterious name is interesting too. I do believe we've never met the author before, because I think it's Stan-LEY, but we don't know anything about that other guy either :)

      I feel like right now, Alex Hirsch is looking at the fan forums and theory blogs about the author and laughing his butt off ;)
      I feel like that's exactly why he wrote Society of the Blindeye the way he did, to make everyone think they were right about McGucket :P It must be nice for them, knowing all the secrets...

      I figured that's what they were doing during the promos of "who wrote the journals".  I am curious, though, if they're airing episodes out of production order, in order to space out the drama.  In Society of the Blind Eye, Dipper ended up with the memory erasing gun.  There's no logical reason to not be investigating everything they just learned.  Especially now that the society's headquarters is no longer protected, thus all the secrets are FREE GAME!!

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:

      I agree.

      I would also like to point out that the author could be someone we've never met before.  In Society of the Blind Eye, there was a memory tube for someone we've never met before.  It was on the same shelf as McGucket's (so it is assumedly also on a pressure-sensitive plate).

      Yes, it will be interesting to find out why their memories were so important :) I would say Mr Northwest's tube being up there is enough proof to hypothesis that he may be the author, although I doubt he is.

      Edit: Oh yes, and that mysterious name is interesting too. I do believe we've never met the author before, because I think it's Stan-LEY, but we don't know anything about that other guy either :)

      I feel like right now, Alex Hirsch is looking at the fan forums and theory blogs about the author and laughing his butt off ;)
      I feel like that's exactly why he wrote Society of the Blindeye the way he did, to make everyone think they were right about McGucket :P It must be nice for them, knowing all the secrets...
      I figured that's what they were doing during the promos of "who wrote the journals".  I am curious, though, if they're airing episodes out of production order, in order to space out the drama.  In Society of the Blind Eye, Dipper ended up with the memory erasing gun.  There's no logical reason to not be investigating everything they just learned.  Especially now that the society's headquarters is no longer protected, thus all the secrets are FREE GAME!!

      Soos is far more Important than all the secrets of gravity falls ^_^

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    • Karrtia wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:

      I agree.

      I would also like to point out that the author could be someone we've never met before.  In Society of the Blind Eye, there was a memory tube for someone we've never met before.  It was on the same shelf as McGucket's (so it is assumedly also on a pressure-sensitive plate).

      Yes, it will be interesting to find out why their memories were so important :) I would say Mr Northwest's tube being up there is enough proof to hypothesis that he may be the author, although I doubt he is.

      Edit: Oh yes, and that mysterious name is interesting too. I do believe we've never met the author before, because I think it's Stan-LEY, but we don't know anything about that other guy either :)

      I feel like right now, Alex Hirsch is looking at the fan forums and theory blogs about the author and laughing his butt off ;)
      I feel like that's exactly why he wrote Society of the Blindeye the way he did, to make everyone think they were right about McGucket :P It must be nice for them, knowing all the secrets...
      I figured that's what they were doing during the promos of "who wrote the journals".  I am curious, though, if they're airing episodes out of production order, in order to space out the drama.  In Society of the Blind Eye, Dipper ended up with the memory erasing gun.  There's no logical reason to not be investigating everything they just learned.  Especially now that the society's headquarters is no longer protected, thus all the secrets are FREE GAME!!
      Soos is far more Important than all the secrets of gravity falls ^_^

      Agreed :)

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    • DamiedeterJR wrote:
      If Bill wrote the journals, then why would he have a page about himself?

      Because he likes a lot himself

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    • Ecpg wrote:
      DamiedeterJR wrote:
      If Bill wrote the journals, then why would he have a page about himself?
      Because he likes a lot himself

      But it's not wirtten about him from his point of veiw. First the author describes him as a friend, then in the third journal as an enemy not to be frifled with.

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    • Ecpg wrote:

      DamiedeterJR wrote:
      If Bill wrote the journals, then why would he have a page about himself?

      Because he likes a lot himself

      That sentence makes no sense.

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    • DamiedeterJR wrote:

      Ecpg wrote:

      DamiedeterJR wrote:
      If Bill wrote the journals, then why would he have a page about himself?
      Because he likes a lot himself
      That sentence makes no sense.

      one word: Ego

      I think what Ecpg meant was that Bill likes himself...and so would write about himself.

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      DamiedeterJR wrote:

      Ecpg wrote:


      DamiedeterJR wrote:
      If Bill wrote the journals, then why would he have a page about himself?
      Because he likes a lot himself
      That sentence makes no sense.
      one word: Ego

      I think what Ecpg meant was that Bill likes himself...and so would write about himself.

      He was referring the the gramatical error. ECPG should have said "Because he likes himself a lot"

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    • EXACTLY the kind of thing bill would do to mess with peoples heads. He'd create this whole mystery just to watch people freak out over it.

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    • GhostieBones wrote:
      EXACTLY the kind of thing bill would do to mess with peoples heads. He'd create this whole mystery just to watch people freak out over it.

      We don't really know Bill that well, and I really can't see him writing the stuff the author wrote about him. Especially since he wrote about how you could stop "his" chaos.

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    • Okay, I think this discussion may have gotten a little accusatory....

      Looks like we wont know anything for sure til spring, I'm assuming after The Love God, they'll be taking a winter hiatus :(

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    • Peacexfreedom wrote:
      Okay, I think this discussion may have gotten a little accusatory....

      Looks like we wont know anything for sure til spring, I'm assuming after The Love God, they'll be taking a winter hiatus :(

      I hope they don't take a hiatus this year, it almost killed me last year.  They don't seem to have relased an episode title for after "The Love God", but that doesn't mean anything, and i'm not in denile or anything...

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    • Captainkirk wrote:
      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      Okay, I think this discussion may have gotten a little accusatory....

      Looks like we wont know anything for sure til spring, I'm assuming after The Love God, they'll be taking a winter hiatus :(

      I hope they don't take a hiatus this year, it almost killed me last year.  They don't seem to have relased an episode title for after "The Love God", but that doesn't mean anything, and i'm not in denile or anything...

      I don't care if they say that there wont be an episode for 3 months so long as they say "yes there will be an episode" within a resonable amount of time, my nerd will be sated and kept at bay lolz

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    • Captainkirk wrote:

      Peacexfreedom wrote:
      Okay, I think this discussion may have gotten a little accusatory....

      Looks like we wont know anything for sure til spring, I'm assuming after The Love God, they'll be taking a winter hiatus :(

      I hope they don't take a hiatus this year, it almost killed me last year.  They don't seem to have relased an episode title for after "The Love God", but that doesn't mean anything, and i'm not in denile or anything...

      I'll take a hiatus of any length over a Christmas special.

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    • Mr B Natural wrote:

      I'll take a hiatus of any length over a Christmas special.

      Espacially since it's not Christmas in the show. The whole show takes place over a summer :P

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    • DamiedeterJR wrote:
      If Bill wrote the journals, then why would he have a page about himself?

      Ego?

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    • SpiVenger wrote:

      Ego?

      We already discussed this. The way the author wrote about Bill wouldn't make sense if Bill was the author.

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    • Karrtia wrote:
      Do you think there is a 4?

      No, Stan's portal was actived only with the 3 journals.

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      SpiVenger wrote:

      Ego?

      We already discussed this. The way the author wrote about Bill wouldn't make sense if Bill was the author.

      What if that's exactly what he wanted people to think?

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    • SpiVenger wrote:

      What if that's exactly what he wanted people to think?

      It just wouldn't make sense. Bill knows everything, why would he keep journals to remember things by. Plus, we know the author was a travelling researcher. If he was a floating triangle who lives in the dreamscape I think McGucket would have mentioned that too.

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    • Bill would have written a full page about himself in 2 for future readers, like the page to summon him if he got banished and the page in 3 was written by whoever hid the journals to warn whoever ended up with the journals not to summon him.

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    • MinecraftPercabeth wrote:
      SpiVenger wrote:

      What if that's exactly what he wanted people to think?

      It just wouldn't make sense. Bill knows everything, why would he keep journals to remember things by. Plus, we know the author was a travelling researcher. If he was a floating triangle who lives in the dreamscape I think McGucket would have mentioned that too.

      I could agrue that Bill only makes sense about half the time, but other than that you make a good point.

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    • Captainkirk wrote:
      Bill would have written a full page about himself in 2 for future readers, like the page to summon him if he got banished and the page in 3 was written by whoever hid the journals to warn whoever ended up with the journals not to summon him.

      It'd be too much of a plot twist to say "the author" didn't write all the journals. Plus, Journal 2 talks about him as a friend to the author, which Bill could have written, but it's highly unlikely and would be way too much of a plot twist. It'd be the producers trying too hard to make a secret that no one will expect, and sacrificing their quality.

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    • SpiVenger wrote:

      I could agrue that Bill only makes sense about half the time, but other than that you make a good point.

      True, but that's only because he knows a lot we don't; however there are things we do know about him, and they can lead us to believe he's not the author.

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    • I think Journal 2 is more influnced by Bill because it was probably made around the time Ford began working with Bill

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    • Kokkinosman9 wrote: I think Journal 2 is more influnced by Bill because it was probably made around the time Ford began working with Bill

      Who are you talking to? Nearly everyone, if not everyone, that commented here is long gone.

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    • Juan The American Brony wrote:

      Kokkinosman9 wrote: I think Journal 2 is more influnced by Bill because it was probably made around the time Ford began working with Bill

      Who are you talking to? Nearly everyone, if not everyone, that commented here is long gone.

      I don't know... I thought someone had written on here :P guess I'm going crazy,

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    • This would be a pretty interesting theory if only I had been around when this forum was made. But I love the creativity. Great Job Karrtia! 

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    • Technically Stanford did write the journals

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