NICE AND HIDDEN
We all know that Disney didn't let Alex use some scenes because of the children's audience, but he couldn't contain himself and did a huge adult joke.
It's in episode 15 of season 2 when Stanford was analyzing Dipper's thoughts, this is what appeared on the screen :
A) I can really rob a bank with my president key
B) I miss Tyrone
C) WENDY!WENDY!WENDY!.......
D)Oh man, that red swimsuit!
And then, just when you think that stuff couldn't get any weirder, this appears "Maybe if I cross my legs, nobody will notice it".
Nice job, Alex. you thought you can hide it?🤣🤣🤣
1.Robbie-Bill
Alex once said that Robbie is not who he seems, so I went through the episodes and found some interesting stuff.
So, Robbie was raised in a funeral house. Great place for the paranormal activities. So, here is my theory.
In the episode "the inconveniencing" We first see Robbie, Wendy's boyfriend. Wendy's friends and Dipper and Mabel go to the Dusk-To-Dawn, which turned out to be haunted and the spirits took them out one by one, except Dipper and Wendy, and surprisingly, Robbie.
Watch the episode again. we don't see anything happening to Robbie. And in the end, Dipper saves the day by confessing that he is twelve.
Here come the next: in the episode "The Blind Eye Society" we see Robbie V's memories about his fight with Rumble. He claims that he kicked rumble's butt, but when he was asked to tell the truth he said "I was saved by a twelve-year-old".
See? the only one Dipper told about his age was Wendy. So, how did Robbie knew? Unless he wasn't taken by the spirits and saw what Dipper did.
So, here is what happened. Robbie is attention-seeking and want's Wendy to love him more. So he made a deal with Bill (keep this in mind. I'm not done with the deals) to win Wendy for himself. So with Bill's help, he set this thing up. I wouldn't be surprised if you told me that the Dusk-To-Dawn incident was his idea. If he could save Wendy, Wendy would even love him more. So, the ghosts took everyone but Robbie so he could be the hero. But Robbie didn't expect Dipper. So Dipper won Wendy's affection.
So, why didn't Robbie made fun of Dipper's lamb dance if he saw it? easy, he didn't want to blow his cover.
This wasn't the first time Robbie worked with Bill. in the episode "The time traveler's pig" no matter what Dipper did, Wendy always got hurt and Robbie was always there to ask Wendy out. It's not natural at all.
So, if he did make a deal with Bill, why didn't he act weird in weirdmageddon? easy. His memory was wiped either by Bill or the blind eye society.
So, why did Bill made a deal with Robbie?
A) because of the prophecy. (I'll talk about it later)
B)because he could reach his second victim. Blendin
2.BLENDIN-BILL
Everybody listen up because I'm about to tell you something, rather old.
Yes, this theory has been moving along that Bill made a deal with Blendin. But as far as I know, nobody could answer that.
This is going to be a long story. If you didn't read the first secret, read that first.
So let's go. Bill made a deal with Robbie for two reasons, and one of them was to get to his next victim, Blendin. But firstly, why him?
Answer: we'll talk about it later.
As you remember, at the end of "Time traveler's pig" Blendin gets arrested and swore vengeance on Dipper and Mabel. He was then moved to Infinitentiary, a prison for time agents. This is the same dialogues from that episode
-I've got to hand it to this perp, no one's broken out of the Infinitentiary before
-He's either the bravest time convict I've ever seen or the dumbest
So how did Blendin escape?
Answer: he didn't escape alone. He made a deal with Bill so he could safely escape prison.
This makes a lot of sense. In the season 2 finale, Ford claimed that Bill can only posses someone when he makes a deal. As you know, Blendin got possessed and took the rift from Mabel.
So, the last question. Do you remember "a tale of two stans"? In the past, when it was showing Stanley and Stanford's childhood, in the cave entry which Stanley punched, this was written.
" Blendin was here."
This has two explanations
A)Bill made him do that so that Stanford would end up in gravity falls, building the portal so that Bill could escape.
B)It was his mission and time baby made him do that. Because if there wasn't a portal nothing in Gravity Falls (and of course, Bill being defeated) would never happen. So Gravity Falls needed the Pines to survive.
4.The cipher wheel
Hi guys. sorry for being late.
Today, I'm talking about the biggest mystery and the most shown page in the journals.
The cipher wheel.
Almost everybody has been theorizing that this character doesn't belong and this one does. So, I'm here with the bomb.
"Anyone with the slightest interaction with Bill, belong to the cipher wheel"
See? Now it's time to consider everyone:
Dipper and Mabel and Soos are off the hook because Bill calls them based on their symbol on the cipher wheel.
Robbie belong because of theory number 1.
Blendin belongs because of theory number 2
Preston Northwest (Pacifica's daddy) belongs (more on that later)
Pacifica doesn't belong (Everybody knows)
Stanford and Stanley belong.
Mc.Gucket belongs because he accidentally went through the portal
I think Rick Sanches belongs since two shows are connected and Stanford is/was Rick's bestie once (more on that later)and maybe had an interaction with Bill
And finally, Wendy Corduroy. Lots of people have seen ice around whenever she was around and they also thought that Wendy is cool so the symbol of ice belongs to her.
Wrong.
If you remember, Stanford said that ice shouldn't have a literal meaning, it can show somebody who is cool in the face of danger.
And we go way back to "the blind eye society". Do you remember what Wendy said when they were captured and their minds were about to be zapped?
In that time everyone confessed to something. Dipper said "sometimes I use big words and I have no idea what they mean"
And then,
Wendy said "I just pretend I'm cool, I'm stressed like, 24-7. Have you tried living in our house?"
Here it is I proved that Wendy was the one who doesn't belong. And she was the minority in the poll I made yesterday.
So, the last question. What about the "ice around when Wendy around" thing?
Just......A......Distraction !!!!!!!!!!
See? Alex made you notice the ice and how cool Wendy is instead of noticing what Wendy said.
Here is something super creepy. Have you noticed that everyone in the cipher wheel makes up a fraction of Bill's personality?
Stanford knows lots of things. Bill knows lots of things
Mabel is determined. Bill is determined (to take over the world)
Dipper loves mystery. Bill loves mystery
Mc.Gucket is crazy. Bill is crazy
And .....
Stanford is Bill
Dipper is Bill
Mabel is Bill
And everyone is Bill.
Do you remember this dialogue "There are eyes everywhere?"
It means everybody is watching.
Everybody's eyes are Bill's eyes
Everyone is Bill.
PS: A character belongs when there is something specific about that character. Something that makes them unique. Maybe some personality traits or maybe some clues. I don't know about the literal meaning but if you remember, I said that dipper belongs because Bill calls him "Pine Tree" and I didn't mention his hat. But about Wendy, It's too coincidental that carrying a bag of ice and seeing ice around someone makes them special. It's just like Pacifica. The sweater she wore in the last half hour of the show didn't make her special, and that's one of the reasons I believe she doesn't belong. It's more likely that the ice represents being cool in the face of danger and I proved that Wendy doesn't belong. But If we consider ice as " a cold person who has a heart as cold as ice" then, We have Rick Sanches in the zodiac. There's always a chance that Stanford was wrong.
5.The northwest family
This family is straight-up evil. So, it shouldn't surprise you when I say that at least one of the members made a deal with Bill.
His name is Preston Northwest, Pacifica's dad.
Firstly, why do I think he is related to the supernatural?
A)The curse
B) His memories were zapped by the blind eye society. ( This is a 🔑 episode)
So, with this backstory, let's get back on track.
Preston is a coward and will do anything to save his butt. He was scared of the curse of the lumberjack and made a deal with Bill.
Bill told him to choose Dipper. Although he was a rich guy with connections, he chose Dipper, the guy whose guts they hate (What did I just say?) and also the guy who exposed their secret about Nathaniel Northwest. He knew exactly when the lumberjack would appear, and he could hire a professional ghostbuster, but strangely, he went for Dipper. Because Bill knew that his success depended on Dipper's death.(more on that later) So Dipper had to die and was supposed to die and almost did die. So when Pacifica opened the gates(sorry, but more on that later, again) It made Bill mad at Preston. Even in Weirdmageddon, Preston tried to befriend Bill (Maybe I could be one of your horsemen of the apocalypse.) But Bill was still mad, so he changed all the functions of every hole on his face.
In return, Bill promised Preston to send the ghost away and protect Preston's family.
And there it was. Preston's dark secret.
6.THE PROPHECY
Hey, guys. I'm Sayan and this is part six of the super power ninja turbo neo ultra hyper mega multi alpha Mata extra uber prefix THEORY, combo👊.
This theory fills all the gaps, it explains everything, and yet, it raises more questions and changes everything. It ruins all then builds everything up again.
Here it goes.
Stanford mentioned a prophecy with the cipher's wheel from a long time ago. But if it really was from a long time ago, what was the word "ice" or the bag of ice doing in the zodiac?
Here is what I think. First, there was the prophecy, then people made the zodiac. The zodiac is the embodiment of the prophecy.
(Before reading the rest, make sure you've read theories 1-5)
The prophecy mentions Dipper's death, Bill coming to the world, Bill becoming the king of the world (worst prophecy ever). McGucket saw or heard a small part of the prophecy. "When Earth becomes the sky, fear the beast with just one eye"
That explains a lot, for example, why Bill made a deal with Robbie or Blendin or Preston.
Robbie hated Dipper at first glance.
Dipper and Mabel put Blendin in jail so he hated them before the deal
Preston hated the Pines.
Gideon hated dipper
They all could easily kill Dipper, and Preston nearly did.
The other proof in prophecy's existent is this
The shapeshifter knew the prophecy and he knew that Dipper will die.
Dipper had to die in Northwest manor. It was in the prophecy. He had to turn into wood and burn in the fire the lumberjack wanted to cause. That was why Bill made a deal with Preston. He hated the Pines and he would kill Dipper with no sweat, so the prophecy would come true and he could destroy the world.
But Pcifica, she saved everyone and everything. She is the reason Gravity Falls is still standing and she doesn't even know about it. She wasn't supposed to opened the gates, but she did and changed the thousands-year-old prophecy. She saved Dipper from certain death.
Fast forward to Weirdmageddon. Bill knew that if Dipper and Mabel worked together they will defeat him. Because he knew the prophecy and he knew that if the Pines ever reunite, they will destroy him.
So,
He put Mabel in a jail
He did his best to kill Dipper
He made Stanford into a golden statue
And Stanley was in the Shack
So, why did he did his best to hurt or kill everyone but put Mabel in a prison? because of his deal with Gideon. His only condition to serve Bill was Mabel staying safe and sound, even though she dumped him.
That was how Bill separated everyone. But it didn't work.
Or did it?
There are two possibilities
A)Bill wanted to stay and party and get weird(according to himself). He remained in Stanley's body(duh) and no matter what, He is going to try again. I don't know what the prophecy says about post-Weirdmageddon, but this seems a little possible
B)Bill knows everything. He knew he would be defeated. So, why bother trying? Unless he was looking for something in our world and he just needed enough time to find it and use it to destroy the Pines. He knew a loophole in the prophecy.
I don't know which one is more possible.
WHO IS THE DARKEST CHARACTER?
Hey guys. Let's get through the list.
Robbie is just trying to be the cool guy and a good boyfriend. He even made a deal with Bill to make Wendy happier(theory 1)
Wendy is a cool but pretentious girl(theory 4)
Pacifica doesn't know how to be lovable because she wasn't in the society for long. She doesn't know when she is hurting other people.
And here we are, with one of the darkest, mysterious people in Gravity Falls.
Mabel pines. The sinister manipulating the most horrifying person who is either good and acts suspicious or has a sinister plan and wants to hide her secrets no matter what. (sorry guys, I've been watching "the theorizer" channel on youtube and I'm getting suspicious about everything)
I know what you're thinking. I'm not losing my mind. Here is my proof
A)She keeps gnome hair in episode one and doesn't say why, but suspiciously says" mm-hum"
B)At the end of season1 episode2 Dipper's disposable camera falls to the lake when gobblewonker hits their boat. When Dipper asks what it was, Mabel just says "mm-hum"
C)At the end of season 1 episode 2, Mabel tells a joke, while talking as a pelican. Her joke ended like this "Because he had a very big BILL" She just said "Bill" exactly like how Bill Cipher calls himself.
D)In the weirdmageddon episode, Mabel and Dipper get trapped in a cage, Mabel makes fun of Bill, then Bill says the most shocking thing "Don't you toy with me kid. I.......SEE.......EVERYTHING" why would he threaten her like that? Why didn't he say I'll break you or I'll make you watch your family's death? Why would he? Unless(This burns my heart) Mabel is hiding something and Bill was going to say what, when Mabel sprayed his eye with paint, immediately after Bill threatened to reveal her secret. Bill is powerful and dangerous and Mabel is willing to risk everything that proves that she would do anything to protect her secret.
E)The box Mabel threw in the bottomless pit was too big for Stanley's truth teeth. When she was asked what it was, she suddenly acted suspiciously and said"just my secrets box"
F)Mabel constantly manipulates everybody with her cuteness. Just watch through the episode and you will find out. she changed through the show, from the cute little sister to a unicorn killing badass
And here it is. Mabel is a manipulative psychopath who might be doing horrible things and covers them with her cuteness.
7(A). EXTRA1
1. Here I am, once again, With the goat. Gompers has been on my mind for a long time. My first itches of doubt started when I read a theory about him being Bill's Brother, or cousin, or something. People even started calling him Will, for crying out loud.
That was when I realized that I wasn't done with Gompers, or Will.
Firstly, why do people think Gompers is weird?
A)Because he does weird things (duh)
B)Once Bill took over Alex's page, or something like that, and said we could ask him anything. One user asks what Bill thinks of Gompers. Bill answered "I like the way he is now", implying that he wasn't always a goat.
Secondly, why do people think Gompers is Bill's relative? Honestly, I have no idea, but I think it's because his pupils look like Bill's
Here is what I spotted. I don't know if Gompers is Bill's relative or not, but he definitely is Bill's spy. In the first episode in the first moment Dipper and Mabel step foot in their room (the attic), we see Gompers on Dipper's bed. Now, considering the Prophecy (theory six), Bill had his eye on dipper from the first minute and he planned to kill him. Gompers spied on Dipper when he was in the forest, he was there when Dipper found the journal, he even chewed the journal out of Dipper's hands.
Also, Bill's spy was the one breaking Gideon out in Weirdmageddon.
We also never see Gompers and Bill at the same time, Except in weirdmageddon, and we don't see Gomper's eyes when Bill passes the goat. So, maybe Gompers was never Bill's spy? What if Bill haunts Gompers's soul and uses his eyes as his own all the time to see everything and the only time Bill and Gompers are in one place, we never see Gomper's eyes. Coincidence? Maybe. But everything is suspicious. We can't even trust Mabel, who was a straight-up saint (according to Wendy) who else can be evil in this show?
Well, there you have it. I know that you've heard most of my theories from
others but I added some points and organized it. Sorry for being late. Sorry for giving you this unoriginal theory, but it was worth it.
This has been Extra 1. Part 1 in secret 7 (last theory)
PS: I'd like to thank my friend, Omid F. for not thinking I'm weird and for helping me with this theory. Also, can somebody tell me why people think Bill and Gompers are families? I didn't get it.
7(B). Extra 2
Okay, I'm here to state the obvious.
Stanford is/was a friend or colleague of Rick Sanchez.
Put everything aside, of course, Rick and Morty and Gravity Falls are connected and we see the mug and pen coming out of a portal, blah blah blah blah. Everyone knows that. You are not a Gravity Falls fan if you don't know about Rick and Morty.
Everyone has theorized about Rick And Morty and Gravity Fall and the connection between them. Also between SVTFOE and Steven Universe and a little bit Phineas and Ferb. But when lost legends came along, Stanford's friendship with Rick became more obvious.
Spoiler alert...
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Okay, so in Gravity Falls black market we see a stand with a dude trying to sell other people's memory, or selling a memory zap and we see a memory which belongs to Rick S. I think he was selling a memory zap because Rick is just crazy sometimes, which can be a result of a memory zap, or I don't know, maybe too much booze?
This proves that Gravity Falls and Rick and Morty are connected.
Of course, I didn't find this. I'm better in logical theorizing not finding clues and codes. I read this Rick S. thing somewhere.
Well, I did my job as logical theorizing too. In one of the episodes, we find out that Stanford is a criminal who is wanted by almost all of the authorities. We can also explain the 38-sided die with this. It was banned in lots of dimensions but somehow Stanford had it.
He went through the portal without anything and came back with a coat and a gun and lots of souvenirs.
That was when I realized that Stanford befriended Sanchez for a while and he became a criminal just like Rick.
So here we are. At the end of the road. I had a lot to tell. Thank you if you listened and thank you if you thought it was too long and just scrolled down to see what else there is to see😉.
I wanted to tell my theories somewhere and this was the best place. It's full of people who care about Gravity Falls. People who can't forget this wonderful summer after 4 years.
I have to take a break for, like a month. I will still be here, voting for the posts and answering your comments. I just won't write any theories in, like, a month. I'm currently working on The Owl House ( a Disney show voiced by Alex Hirsch) and The Shivering Truth (a dark and deep adult show full of sadness) and hopefully Inside Job (if it airs) and I'll also work on more Gravity Falls theories and secrets. But until then,
GOODBYE.👋👋👋
Sayanmdavi
THE MINI THEORIES
Mini theory one
I have done seven Gravity Falls theories as crazy as hell. They are all new and nothing you have heard whispers about.
I was in my break but firstly the GIF incident needs more posting and here I am. I promised to look deeply in the multiverse that R&M, GF, SVTFOE, and STEVEN UNIVERSE took place and also some side projects like THE SHIVERING TRUTH(which I am loving, by the way)
I stumbled upon some interesting little thoughts that I am going to discuss as mini theories. My main theories are down there somewhere. Feel free to read them.
The first mini theory is about Queen Eclipsa. I loved this character the first time I saw her( a year ago). Because she is super wise and very funny, and of course, she loves monsters. This fact leads me to this theory.
Bill taught Eclipsa his dark magic.
Notice how Eclipsa's magic is chaotic and dark, while she is funny, caring, and calm.
This spell of Eclipsa should be a huge trigger on a Gravity Falls fan.
"The all-seeing eye"
Here is how the spell goes
"I summon the all-seeing eye,
To tear a hole into the sky,
Reveal to me that which is hidden,
Unveil to me what is forbidden"
The characters seek Bill's knowledge in order to spy on others.
Each show has specific deal-making situations. In Gravity Falls, people make deals with Bill and SVTFOE two queens make deal with each other and it's as powerful as hell.
So, I come to the conclusion that Bill was in Star's universe and maybe(just maybe) made a deal with Eclipsa. I have no evidence of the deal except the fact that Eclipsa paid for the power source she chose( her gross purple hands and all that stuff)
MINI THEORY TWO
I wanted to make an Owl House-Gravity Falls theory since I first saw Owl house, like a week ago. Since then, I've been looking for a connection between GF and OH, then @Chonks37489 posted this pic on the owl house wiki.
Then everything clicked.
I was looking in the wrong place.
The answer was LOST LEGENDS STORY ONE.
Everything made sense to me.
Why GF and OH have the same pine trees
Why the boiling isles were in the journals.
The strange wanted poster in GF black market
And what Mr whats-his-face said
This is what's going on.
Door number 13 on the main street in GF is a portal to the black market, which is a part of the OH world. That's why that monster said you're in my world. So, they are not in gravity falls.
And the wanted poster makes everything easier. It's Eda's picture.
There's also the fact that everything in the journals is organized. Like creature number 10 or haunted place number 1092. So, Crawlspace might be a part of the Boiling Isles or another black market (the pages would be like Black market #1 and Black market #2 and....)
Again, huge thanks to @Chonks37489 for pointing that out.
Check my Seven-part THEORY SERIES PART ONE. CRAZY STUFF THERE.
