Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-12265996-20141231184119/@comment-25094659-20150103171731

Mabel in NY wrote:

Alright, let`s break this down into some points: 1) You know, after I read what I wrote about the vending machine the other day, I began to wonder: what if there wasn`t a vending machine in the past that led to the basement and if there was, Soos could have been the one to install the codepad onto the machine (later on after he broke it, maybe)?

2) "T here weren't any cuts inbetween that and Soos "turning into" Bill."  That`s true enough, but it definitely doesn`t rule out the possibility of Soos already being aware of Stan`s secret.

3) Soos being a part of TROOTHM is a plausible thoery but I don`t see any concrete clues that can lead to this, except for the fact that Soos seems to have gained Stan`s trust over the years. Stan may very well be connected to this society but him being its leader, I`m not so sure. However, it can be possible, since we almost always see him wearing his characteristic fez. But we don`t know much about the origin of this society nor it`s members so let`s not jump into conclusions.

4) I`m aware that the theory is a little far fetched but like @Captainkirk mentioned earlier, maybe Soos made some kind of deal with Bill either in the past (unlikely, because when Bill was first introduced, Soos and Mabel seemed horrified by his antics, although Soos could have been acting or had his memeory erased at some point by TSOTBE); OR he will make a deal with Bill in the future (according to some theories regarding the Cipher Wheel). Thank you.

1) Unfortunatley, I don't think so. The portal was built, or it's construction was started, over 30 years ago. 30 yeats ago, McGucket was old, and he was young when he had portal blueprints on the walls, so the portal and the secret entrance was probably around before Soos was born. McGucket could have easily built it as well. It is still possible however, and I really liked the scene where he manipulated the machine. There are still explanation to how he could have built it, but I don't see any with a lot of back-up.

2) True, but now we've lost most of our back-up. All we have is the part where he opens the machine, but all staff should know how to do that. It is worhty to note that he does it unorthodoxly and without a key however.

3) I accept this of course, it's only a personal hypthesis I had. It's not like he's the best secret keeper in the world, but there have been times when it seems like he is. A) When he distracts the twins from wondering why Stan would want Journal 3 and B) When he wonders if Stan might have walked into a closet instead of out the front door despite the fact that he hasn't missed a day of work in his life and should know what doors lead where, almost as if he was pretending to be stupid. Only a theory though.

4) Future deal I can see, but not past or present. Bil hasn't been able to comunicate to people until after he was summoned and Soos seemed pretty against Bill in Dreamscaperers. Curious now though, what in the Cipher wheel suggests a future deal with Bill? I'm always happy to hear new theories.